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Not Such a Bright Idea: Atheists Try a New Name
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/ ^ | September 29, 2003 | Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr.

Posted on 09/29/2003 7:09:06 AM PDT by DittoJed2


Not Such a Bright Idea: Atheists Try a New Name
Albert Mohler

Daniel Dennett claims that atheism is getting a bad press. The world is filled with religious believers, he acknowledges, but a growing number of atheists lack the respect they deserve. It's time for a new public relations strategy for the godless, Dennett argues, and he has just the plan.

The central point of Dennett's strategy is to get rid of the word "atheist." It's too, well, negative. After all, it identifies an individual by what he or she does not believe--in this case the individual does not believe in God. A more positive approach would be helpful to advance the atheist anti-supernatural agenda.

Dennett, joined by Richard Dawkins, thinks he has found the perfect plan. Two atheists in California have suggested that the anti-supernatural crowd should take a page from the homosexual rights movement's handbook. Homosexuals renamed themselves "gays" and changed the terms of the debate, they argue.

As Richard Dawkins explains, "A triumph of consciousness-raising has been the homosexual hijacking of the word 'gay'.... Gay is succinct, uplifting, positive: an 'up' word, where homosexual is a down word and queer [and] faggot . . . are insults. Those of us who subscribe to no religion; those of us who rejoice in the real and scorn the false comfort of the unreal, we need a word of our own, a word like 'gay'."

The word chosen to be the atheists' version of 'gay' is bright. That's right, they want unbelievers to call themselves brights. Give them an "A" for arrogance.

Of course, Daniel Dennett and Richard Dawkins are already specialists in the highest form of intellectual snobbery. Dennett, a professor of philosophy at Tufts University, and Dawkins, a scientist at Oxford University, are well known for their condescending dismissal of all belief in the supernatural. Both address their scorn to anyone who believes in God or dares to question naturalistic evolution.

Their plan, if successful, would put believers in God in the unenviable position of being opposed to "brights" who deny belief in God. This is, no pun avoidable, a diabolically brilliant public relations strategy. The real question is: Will it work?

In "The Bright Stuff," an op-ed column published in The New York Times, Dennett simply declared, "It's time for us brights to come out of the closet." Now, that's an invitation sure to get attention.

He continued, "What is a bright? A bright is a person with a naturalist as opposed to a supernaturalist world view. We brights don't believe in ghosts or elves or the Easter Bunny--or God. We disagree about many things, and hold a variety of views about morality, politics and the meaning of life, but we share a disbelief in black magic--and life after death."

Brights are all around us, Dennett claims. Brights are "doctors, nurses, police officers, schoolteachers, crossing guards and men and women serving in the military. We are your sons and daughters, your brothers and sisters. Our colleges and universities teem with brights. Among scientists, we are a commanding majority." Had enough?

Dennett wants to be the Moses of the atheist cause, leading his people out of bondage to theists and into the promised land of atheistic cultural influence--a land flowing with skepticism and unbelief.

The most absurd argument offered by Dennett is that brights "just want to be treated with the same respect accorded to Baptists and Hindus and Catholics, no more and no less." Those familiar with the work of Dennett and Dawkins will be waiting for the laughter after that claim. The same respect? These two militant secularists show no respect for religious belief.

Philosopher Michael Rea of the University of Notre Dame couldn't let Dennett and Dawkins get away with such hogwash. 'The fact is," he asserts, "the likes of Dennett and Dawkins aren't the least bit interested in mutual respect." Dennett has suggested that serious religious believers should be isolated from society in a "cultural zoo." Dawkins has argued that persons who reject naturalistic evolution are "ignorant, stupid or insane." Well, now--is that their vision of "mutual respect?"

As for the anti-supernaturalists calling themselves "brights," Rea argues, "The genuinely tolerant atheist will refuse the label; for the the very respect and humility that characterize her tolerance will also help her to see that in fact their are bright people on both sides of the theist/atheist divide."  [See Rea's exchange with Dennett]

Timothy K. Beal, professor of religion at Case Western Reserve University, notes that the brights demonstrate "an evangelical tone" in their writings. Beal perceptively notes that, in their determination to be irreligious, these atheists have just established a new anti-religious religion. But what they really want is not only respect, but cultural influence.

Dennett's New York Times column decried "the role of religious organizations in daily life," contrasted with no such public role for secularists. Of course, this claim is sheer nonsense. Dennett and Dawkins boast that most scientists and intellectuals are atheists. They are without influence?

G. K. Chesterton once identified atheism as "the most daring of all dogmas," since it is the "assertion of a universal negative." As he explained; "for a man to say that there is no God in the universe is like saying that there are no insects in any of the stars."

The Psalmist agreed, and spoke in even more dramatic terms: "The fool says in his heart, 'There is no God'." [Psalm 14:1] The atheists are caught in a difficult position. They reject belief in God, but draw attention to God even as they shout their unbelief. In the end, they look more foolish than dangerous.

This call for a new public relations strategy will likely backfire. Hijacking the term bright shows insecurity more than anything else. A movement of secure egos would not resort to calling itself "brights."

Atheism may try to change its name, but it cannot succeed in changing its nature. This bright idea doesn't look so bright after all.

 

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To: AndrewC
Andrew - I think you may have posted to me by mistake. :)
161 posted on 09/29/2003 10:10:28 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: OWK
I see a huge waste of time on the horizon.

You have a habit of wasting everybody's time. You also begin with personal insults. Typical of you.

162 posted on 09/29/2003 10:12:09 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: exmarine
Hahaha. That's not an answer. If they are real, then you won't mind telling me where they come from.

They come from reality.

163 posted on 09/29/2003 10:12:12 AM PDT by OWK
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To: Revolting cat!; malakhi; OWK
If there is no God, then everything is permitted-Fyodor Dostoyevsky

What does not follow from this is that everyone would choose to do evil-malakhi

Or that if there is a God, that it is not equally so that everything is still permitted (restrained only by the actions of man.... whether he believes in God, or not). Unless of course Dostoyevsky's argument is against free will-OWK

[different context]What a sophisticated intellectual refutation of Dostoyevsky's statement, and of the widely accepted version of the causes of the 20th century horrors.-Revolting cat!

Dostoevsky had Communists (they were called social reformists when he wrote) pegged. A system that attempts to define morality and forcefully denies that role from religion is totalitarian. That was indeed a cause of the tremendous suffering and 20 million dead in Soviet Russia. I agree with Revolting cat!.

164 posted on 09/29/2003 10:12:37 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: AndrewC
You also begin with personal insults.

Do you honestly not see your entry into this thread?

Hypocrite.

165 posted on 09/29/2003 10:13:22 AM PDT by OWK
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To: OWK
Hypocrite.

There you go again. Your one word argument is not copyright OWK. I did not call you names. I characterized, in sarcasm, a "specious" rebuttal. It evidently hit home. I expect for you to continue to show everybody your repertoire of personal attacks.

166 posted on 09/29/2003 10:18:16 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: OWK; DrC; MineralMan; Dimensio
One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.

I believe the disagreement was over whether it was a disbelief or a denial. The definition you cited has both. Therefore, it was incorrect for you to call DrC's definition wrong.

Of course anyone reading this thread has long since been studiously ignoring the dictionary battle.

167 posted on 09/29/2003 10:20:26 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: OWK
They come from reality.

Moral absolutes just are....Since you just keep repeating this, you obviously believe they are real, however, you don't know their source (otherwise you would have named it). How odd... Evidently, you are taking it "on blind faith" that moral absolutes are real - but you don't know where they are from, you just KNOW they aren't from God! You are so bent on denying that God is the source, you are satisfied to say they just are... It seems you have your moral feet planted in mid-air. I think you have some serious thinkin to do...

168 posted on 09/29/2003 10:21:15 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
Morals are concepts. If they are real and absolute, whose concepts were they prior to the existence of man?
169 posted on 09/29/2003 10:26:05 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Dimensio
Well: the fact that life & matter exists seems to be rather strong existence of the existence of a Creator. Afterall it is not logical to believe that it all occured all by itself since it still begs the question: where did it start? Etc. There would have to be a point of origin at some point. The intelligence that it required to create the universe points quite strongly in the direction of intelligent design.


170 posted on 09/29/2003 10:27:56 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: exmarine
If you want to say the bible has contradictions, you first need to define what a contradiction is

A discreption. An inconsistency

171 posted on 09/29/2003 10:28:38 AM PDT by gdani
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Can't speak for my boardmates. But I say...as a Christian...you are welcome here:)

Not all atheists/agnostics are as uh...how shall I say it?...insular...as Dawkins & co.

Brian.
172 posted on 09/29/2003 10:37:00 AM PDT by bzrd
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To: HalfFull
ROFL! Hey, it has its advantages!
173 posted on 09/29/2003 10:39:30 AM PDT by DittoJed2 (Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it,derived from our Maker- John Adams)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.; exmarine; AndrewC; OWK; DrC; MineralMan; Dimensio; malakhi; ...
A system that attempts to define morality and forcefully denies that role from religion is totalitarian.

Our founders wisely refrained from defining morality, leaving that to conscience. They did define law based on specific Judeo-Christian codes of morality, however.

The forced march of secularism championed by the ACLU must be resisted. My choice of words is not to brand them all atheists but to say the SCOTUS justices and subsequent judges have failed to understand the role of religion which the founders counted on.

Part of our law guarantees religious freedom - freedom of conscience naturally including the right not to believe. That and the establishment clause prevent a majoritarian Christian sect from oppressing others. It is ridiculous, as we now do, to legislate that those with state power must refrain from speaking and acting in concert with their belief that the state is subservient to God.

174 posted on 09/29/2003 10:42:55 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: OWK
You're wasting your time. Exmarine is so determined to be right in the face of contradictory facts that he is unable to comprehend that "no source of absolute morality" is not the same thing as "no truths whatsoever".
175 posted on 09/29/2003 10:47:44 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: DittoJed2
Alright! Who had the admin move this to the smokey backroom? I see some of the usual suspects showed up, but not everyone on here is acting like a jerk about this thread.
176 posted on 09/29/2003 10:47:44 AM PDT by DittoJed2 (Liberty must at all hazards be supported. We have a right to it,derived from our Maker- John Adams)
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
Frankly I think way too much is made of the way people are "treated". I don't care that much. Let people proslytize theism, or atheism, if they are so inclined, or let them ignore the proselytizers if that's their inclination. Mocking is fine too, I suppose, if often a sign of poor breeding. But I do permit myself to be irritated when preslytizers piss 'n moan excessively about other people's proslytizing, such as the article leading this thread does. (It also mocks and disagrees with atheists, which as noted I don't trouble to take issue with.) If you can't stand the heat...
177 posted on 09/29/2003 10:48:37 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: HalfFull
Thing the evo's on this forum would go for changing the term "crevo thread" to "brightcreationist threads"

Not only do not all atheists advocate calling themselves "bright" (I find the term idiotic, myself), but not all who accept evolution are atheists, so your question is rather odd.
178 posted on 09/29/2003 10:49:54 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
The intelligence that it required to create the universe points quite strongly in the direction of intelligent design.

Then who designed the designer?

179 posted on 09/29/2003 10:50:56 AM PDT by PaulJ
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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Well: the fact that life & matter exists seems to be rather strong existence of the existence of a Creator.

Why? Because you can't imagine another way for it to come into being? Sorry, but I require evidence for the creator.

Afterall it is not logical to believe that it all occured all by itself since it still begs the question: where did it start?

Maybe it's a causality loop -- thus it started itself (and will start itself again and again).

The intelligence that it required to create the universe points quite strongly in the direction of intelligent design.

There are two problems with this. First, you're asserting intelligence without demonstrating it; second, you're assuming that the intelligence -- yet to be demonstrated -- is the result of a "god" rather than a perfectly "natural" entity.
180 posted on 09/29/2003 10:53:55 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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