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To: Republic_of_Secession.
Well: the fact that life & matter exists seems to be rather strong existence of the existence of a Creator.

Why? Because you can't imagine another way for it to come into being? Sorry, but I require evidence for the creator.

Afterall it is not logical to believe that it all occured all by itself since it still begs the question: where did it start?

Maybe it's a causality loop -- thus it started itself (and will start itself again and again).

The intelligence that it required to create the universe points quite strongly in the direction of intelligent design.

There are two problems with this. First, you're asserting intelligence without demonstrating it; second, you're assuming that the intelligence -- yet to be demonstrated -- is the result of a "god" rather than a perfectly "natural" entity.
180 posted on 09/29/2003 10:53:55 AM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Dimensio

OK: What "other way" would that be? Let's hear them. Evidence for the Creator lies in the fact that His creation exists -& with midboggling mathematic prescision.

This is not a plausable explanation as the universe is demonstably linear. Thus heading towards an ultimate demise of which its ability to start again would be most unlikely. The universe has a finite life span.

The universe demonsrates it itself. The fact that the design of sacred geometry is present in just about everything is one powerful demonstration of intelligence.

Sacred Geometry Link 1.

Sacred Geometry Link II.

It is demonstrated every single moment. It is certainly demonstrated through sacred geometry & the mathemoatical prescision of the universe.

The problem is that you act as if these are two separate things. The fact of the matter is that God IS a perfectly natural entity! Seems you believe in the atheist's faulty paradigm which claims that God & nature are supposedly part of a zero sum equation. God is not some distant aloof "extra-natural" isolated enclosure. God is a natural entity who is a part of every molecule of the universe as well.
335 posted on 10/03/2003 6:26:37 AM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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