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Dad who pluggedprowler spurns deal
New York Daily News ^ | 4/08/03 | NANCIE L. KATZ

Posted on 04/08/2003 5:57:45 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: AllSmiles
Should everyone do that because if so, I have long felt that people with IQs below 130 should be put down for the general good.

That would sure cut down on the posters flaming you. Hell, why raise the bar so high. Drop it to 110 and you will still be close to alone in here.

161 posted on 04/08/2003 8:20:18 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: AllSmiles
Why? In your idea of a free country does everyone just do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it?

As long as they don't bother anybody else, what is wrong with that? A man has a right not to accosted by criminals in his home. A criminal that comes into my home is going out feet first.

Walt

162 posted on 04/08/2003 8:20:20 AM PDT by WhiskeyPapa (Be copy now to men of grosser blood and teach them how to war!)
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To: kattracks
It is bizarre to me that the prosecutor is pushing these piddly (to them) charges against this man. The benefit to the safety of anyone to come from this man's short imprisonment is nonexistant, and the consequences to this family of a criminal conviction and lost income is enormous.
163 posted on 04/08/2003 8:21:05 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (May it be a light for you in dark places, when all other lights go out.)
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To: AllSmiles
Well, as long as we're making up laws, why shouldn't I enforce the "no morons" law? Look how much shorter this thread would be.

Yeah....you wouldn't be here.

164 posted on 04/08/2003 8:21:05 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar....)
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To: Iron Eagle
How does black shoepolish taste?
165 posted on 04/08/2003 8:22:05 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: from occupied ga
Thanks
166 posted on 04/08/2003 8:22:20 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: demosthenes the elder
Thanks
167 posted on 04/08/2003 8:22:39 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Iron Eagle
That would sure cut down on the posters flaming you.

And those supporting him

168 posted on 04/08/2003 8:23:11 AM PDT by Nov3
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To: AllSmiles
I've spent more than 50 years in NYC.

It shows, dude, it shows...

This may be hard for you to grasp, but there are other places in this country where people ARE actually free...NYC ain't one of 'em. Maybe you should get out more....

169 posted on 04/08/2003 8:23:41 AM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar....)
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To: AllSmiles
See here, AllSmiles, your point that the law is important and can't just be broken with abandon is well-taken. It's just that so many of us here are not OF NEW YORKER QUALITY quality that we have a hard time identifying with certain of the laws in the Empire State. Thank God we can vote with our feet.
170 posted on 04/08/2003 8:26:30 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: toothless
Don't know, I'll ask the guy who buffs my wing-tips. Once they get out of this thread and back to work! LOL
171 posted on 04/08/2003 8:26:56 AM PDT by Iron Eagle
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To: AllSmiles
In your view, the average person should interpret the Bill of Rights on his own

Therein lies your problem. You actually believe the Constitution and Bill of Rights need interpretting. They do not. They are written in plain english. If they were written in chinese or legalese they may need to be interpretted, but the authors, thank goodness, wrote them so that no interpretation is necessary. They say what they mean, and mean what they say, unlike most Marxists.

172 posted on 04/08/2003 8:27:08 AM PDT by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: NYFriend
he's been talking about reducing the charges to a level that no longer warrants a jury trial under the law. He's afraif a jury will let Dixon walk, but thinks a judge will sentence him.

Isn't Dixon entitled to demand a trial by jury, no matter how trivial the case? I suppose a judge could deny that request, but that looks like automatic grounds for appeal.

(Just asking.)

173 posted on 04/08/2003 8:27:18 AM PDT by algol
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To: AllSmiles
I see! That's brilliant. So in your opinion, each of us should decide which laws are stupid and disregard them. Right? Or are you the only one who knows which laws are stupid? Which laws that carry serious penalties for breaking them do you break?

Actually, disregarding STUPID laws is done all the time. Sometimes the government goes too far and sometimes it is the job of the citizen to let the government know it. I ignore the local gun laws and would shoot an intruder in my house when the law says I must retreat from my own house.

God bless this man. Ignoring a stupid gun law probably saved his child's life.

174 posted on 04/08/2003 8:27:30 AM PDT by Smedley
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To: ninenot
So cling to your belief that law, once written, is perfectly good. You'd make great bureaucratic drones.

My,my my ... such nastiness. Before flaming, please take the time to think; it saves bandwidth and prevents you from looking like a fool.

In case you were asleep in American History, and Gov't classes, I'll give you a free refresher. A law that is questionable is CHALLENGED as to it's counstitutionality. Not ignored. Once a law is CHALLENGED and found to be wrong, it is removed from the books. There is a proceedure to this. We all agree that the law, as written is not working. You are championing the choatic proceedure of ignoring laws you don't like. That's not how things are done in a Democracy.

175 posted on 04/08/2003 8:28:41 AM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Hodar
"That's not how things are done in a Democracy."

How exactly do you challenge a law without breaking it?
176 posted on 04/08/2003 8:30:05 AM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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Our Constitution gaurantees the rights of the Citizens to Keep and Bear arms. To hell with this licensing crap. Ignore the law, break the law if necessary and force them in that respect to CHANGE the law.

Free men (not Freemen) own weapons.
Slaves do not

Semper Fi
177 posted on 04/08/2003 8:30:09 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Can't stand rude behavior in a man.... Won't tolerate it.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Some local freeper ought to do a thread to Freep the Mayor or DA in this area.....

If the NY chapter wants to get something started, outside this DA's house one upcoming weekend, I'll do anything I can to help.

178 posted on 04/08/2003 8:30:45 AM PDT by Critter (Going back to sleep til the next revolution.)
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To: AllSmiles

The consensus of opinion here is that if an individual doesn't like the law, he should simply violate it, right?

You are absolutely wrong. What you said is all your rhetoric. Not one person on this thread has even remotely implied that if the burglar didn't like the law that he should simply violate it. On the other hand, staring at a burglar in ones own home it is utterly stupid to aide by any law that would facilitate the burglar in following through with his crime in progress -- which could include the burglar killing one or more of the family members.

179 posted on 04/08/2003 8:31:09 AM PDT by Zon
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To: AllSmiles
This fellow broke the law. He made a conscious decision to do so. Now it's time to pay the piper. Pay like a man. It was worth shooting the intruder, wasn't it?

If he and the other citizens of that state allow this law to stand, if a message isn't sent to the powers that be, the next person to pay might pay with a toddler's life.

For that matter, how many have already paid that price?

180 posted on 04/08/2003 8:31:13 AM PDT by Oberon (This tagline intentionally left blank.)
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