The Five Failed Predictions of Creationism

Crevo thread: Professor Dumped Over Evolution Beliefs ^ | 24 March 2003 | PatrickHenry

[PatrickHenry]

This vanity thread was inspired by a provocative question that Junior directed to a creationist: "Biblical prophesies notwithstanding, what biological predictions does creationism make?" The creationist didn't respond, but I did, as follows:

I can think of a few creationist predictions. Because -- according to creationism -- all species were specially created at virtually the same time, and did not gradually evolve from earlier forms:

1. There should be no transitional species.
2. There are most certainly no pre-human species.
3. There should be no evidence, whether in fossils or DNA, showing the chronological evolution of life.
4. There must surely be at least one species, and probably several, having no genetic similarities with any other life on earth.
5. The fossil record must show all kinds of species (such as dinosaurs and humans) living together at the same time.

I shall call these The Five Failed Predictions of Creationism.

In fairness to the creationists, although the first three have already been disproved (for example: #1 -- Transitional Vertebrate Fossils FAQ, #2 -- Human Ancestors, more #2 -- Comparison of all skulls, #3 -- Tree of Life Project ), the last two (#4 and #5) can't yet be considered to be totally failed predictions. All we can do is point out that the predicted evidence has not yet been discovered. Given the lack of actual research being conducted by creationists, it is unlikely to be discovered.

[gomaaa]

But if the 2LoT was a side effect of the Fall, then does that mean it wasn't in effect before the Fall? Wouldn't that fundamentally change chemistry, just for starters? Would biology even be possible without the 2LoT? I mean, wouldn't people spontaneously combust? Or, would dust spontaneously clump together & break into song?

Rivers could flow backward, smoke could be sucked back into cigarette ash to make tobacco, crazy glue would no longer be necessary to fix a vase that had broken, salt would spontaneously come out of solution in water, the seas would boil and the skies would blacken, dogs and cats, living together, MASS HYSTERIA!

[Dimensio]

Bah. A proper April Fool's post would be "Evolution scientists announce, 'It was all a big joke', admit ultimate goal was to lead the gullible away from Christ". I bet that quite a few Creationists would buy it as fact (given that people honestly believe that JK Rowling is a member of the Church of Satan).

[Junior]

...crazy glue would no longer be necessary to fix a vase that had broken...

I feel sorry for that poor guy hanging by his hard hat from that I-beam...

[Junior]

You ought to gin up a story along those lines and post it. I'd ping the list in a heart beat.

[Sentis]

We all know that God Created the earth in 7 days six thousand years ago and if you let all these facts keep getting in the way of your faith your going straight to hell.

[PatrickHenry]

A proper April Fool's post would be "Evolution scientists announce, 'It was all a big joke', admit ultimate goal was to lead the gullible away from Christ".

That's so close to what the creationoids actually do believe that it would be too cruel to post it as a joke.

So far, the biggest joke is that they are all avoiding the thread. Perhaps crevos really do get out there and celebrate today as a holiday.

[Sentis]

Please please post this before the day is over include some fake scientist coming out of the closet do to speak. It will be in Crevo science/faith books before the end of the week.

[metacognative]

Even the rocks would cry out, huh? Seems like I've heard that before somewhere. I don't know how the Second Law worked before the Curse, but it sure makes upward evolution against physico-chemical equilibrium impossible now...unless Bergson was right.

[Doctor Stochastic]

And the Great Flood was just a Raleigh-Taylor instability in the Water Canopy that overhung (or hung over) the Firmament.

Anyway, Happy Sizda-Bedar!

[PatrickHenry]

Shamelessly bumping my own thread. Where are the creationoids? They can't all be human shields.

[f.Christian]

Now I can see more clearly the fight we are in ...

limited govt (( creation // rights )) === Republic ---

... vs ...

unlimited govt // BS ...

(( evolution // elitist tyranny --- technocrats )) === socialism // fascism // communism ...

technocracy!

The dictatorship of the psuedo - intellectuals ...



untouchables --- overlords !

School // PARTY of social engineering via traitors -- nazis ...

atheists // EVOLUTION !

[Sentis]

theres nothing like the real thing baby!!! :)

[Genesis defender]

[P]eople honestly believe that JK Rowling is a member of the Church of Satan

She's not? Dang.

Rowling isn't even Wiccan?

[Genesis defender]

If each species were a unique creation...

Tsk tsk, Pat. You're getting sloppy. It's nitpicking, I know, but we creationoids prefer to use the term "kind", as in the dog kind. (Ex. - Wolves and dogs are separate species but can interbreed)

[Dimensio]

I don't know her religious affiliation apart from the fact that she's said that she's not a Satan worshipper. My comment was in reference to an Onion article, a satirical story that a number of Christian groups (and even an editor at WorldNetDaily) believed to be true.

[Condorman]

... dogs and cats, living together, MASS HYSTERIA!

All right. But what if you're wrong? Will you go to jail peacefully? Quietly? Will you enjoy it?

[PatrickHenry]

You're getting sloppy. It's nitpicking, I know, but we creationoids prefer to use the term "kind" [not "species"]

Well, if I start down the road that leads to making creationoids happy, I will have to leave all my knowledge behind, so I don't want to even begin that journey. I'll have to live with the guilt of knowing that I've upset another creationoid. "Kind" or "species," it's all voodoo.

PTHHHHHHHHHH!

Neat screenname, by the way.

[exnavy]

Someday, when you stand before God, you will know the truth.

[f.Christian]

THIS JUST IN: An Ivy League University is introducing a School of ... Gay Science. The most popular course so far is Nuclear Choreography 101

[Sentis]

who did you cut and paste this from it is way more coherent than your usual posts?