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Germany to buy US-made F-35s to replace aging bombers
Associated Press ^ | March 14, 2022 | Frank Jordans

Posted on 03/15/2022 10:55:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Germany will replace some of its aging Tornado bomber jets with U.S.-made F-35A Lightning II aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons, the country’s defense minister said Monday.

Announcing the decision, Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht said Germany also will upgrade its Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for electronic warfare — a capability that’s also currently fulfilled by the Tornado jets. The Eurofighter will be replaced beginning in 2040 with the Future Combat Air System, or FCAS, that’s being jointly developed with France and Spain, she said.

Germany’s air force commander, Ingo Gerhartz, said the Russian war in Ukraine made it necessary to choose Lockheed Martin’s F-35s. Previously, the government had considered replacing the Luftwaffe’s Tornados with a mix of different U.S. and European-made aircraft. […]

The German military does not have nuclear weapons of its own, but as part of the system of nuclear deterrence developed during the Cold War it maintained bombers capable of carrying U.S. atomic bombs, some of which are stationed in Germany.

The opposition Left Party criticized the decision to purchase almost three dozen F-35s for Germany’s military. …

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: andagain; eussr; f35; fourthreich; germany; luftwaffe; nato; nukes; putin; russia; ukraine
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To: Renfrew

Can your Toyota Tundra do Mach 1.5?............


21 posted on 03/15/2022 11:21:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: \/\/ayne

And we wondered why we are pushing the new narrative. The new arms is off and running. Who’s this Lockheed Martin? There was nothing in Iraq for the new weapon systems left to blow up. New locale, new DC oligarch mega profits.


22 posted on 03/15/2022 11:21:51 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Olog-hai

The Eurofighter will be replaced beginning in 2040 with the Future Combat Air System

20 years to design a pane?
Who do they think they are? The US Air Force?!
In 20 years everything about it will be obsolete.


23 posted on 03/15/2022 11:26:44 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I found hash brown patties! )
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To: Kevmo

Like a F-16...but better


24 posted on 03/15/2022 11:27:36 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Red Badger

#21 Can your Toyota Tundra do Mach 1.5?............

The electric model can on a full charge : )


25 posted on 03/15/2022 11:29:00 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (I found hash brown patties! )
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To: Olog-hai

So...Germany intends to buy F-35 aircraft with the money they haven’t been spending on NATO for all these years as agreed to?


26 posted on 03/15/2022 11:32:21 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Olog-hai

I also recall their little Komet saw similarities later with the US X-1


27 posted on 03/15/2022 11:34:34 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: T.B. Yoits

Sure, because it’s not really in a NATO context.


28 posted on 03/15/2022 11:35:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Its not like every time we let them arm up they try to take over Europe or anything. 😏


29 posted on 03/15/2022 11:35:31 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Kevmo

We will only build 2 types of planes. Fighter-bombers and long range heavy bombers. Those are the only fixed wing aircraft Congress will approve in any quantities. There is no way they will approve a medium bomber. That’s how the F-117 got it’s fighter designation even though it can’t do much in that role. The F-22 would lose much of it’s stealth features and some performance in a bomber role but it had to be sold as a capable bomber to be approved.


30 posted on 03/15/2022 11:38:32 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Renfrew

“U.S.-made F-35A Lightning II aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons”
...
“The German military does not have nuclear weapons”


Gotta love modern “journalism”.


31 posted on 03/15/2022 11:40:47 AM PDT by throwthebumsout
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To: Olog-hai

My the worm has turned. Germany is increasing its defense budget to 2% of its GDP. Russia is a wakeup call for Europe.


32 posted on 03/15/2022 11:44:45 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: DownInFlames

I hope after this done, NATO is desolved as is the UN.


33 posted on 03/15/2022 11:47:58 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Kevmo
The sense I am developing is that it’s worth getting. I used to think it was a bit of a turkey.

The F-35 is very similarly following the path the F-16 did.

The F-16 was intended to be a second tier multipurpose aircraft to supplement the F-15 which was dedicated to air superiority, the big dog in the fight.

As the F-16 evolved and the world took notice, it became more versatile and attractive than it's design concept ever imagined.

The F-35 is now growing into that niche. The world is evaluating it's capabilities and liking what it has to offer. The big criticism has been price but now as export volumes increase, the price per unit is reduced, again, same as the F-16.

There are critics that will never allow the F-35 it's due credit but there were also critics of the F-15, F-22, B-1B, AWACS and other now proven systems. The critics, notably the likes of patricia schroeder, never met a USAF system they didn't like.

34 posted on 03/15/2022 11:57:07 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Red Badger
Can your Toyota Tundra do Mach 1.5?............

They can in a tornado. Oh wait, that's a different kind of tornado

...never mind.

35 posted on 03/15/2022 11:59:35 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: DownInFlames

Why; the EU empire can’t rise fast enough?

The EU was created as an antithesis to the USA. It’s purely about anti-Americanism. Clinton ceding control of NATO to them has produced the bitter fruits of today.


36 posted on 03/15/2022 12:12:29 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: DownInFlames

JFTR, I do agree about the UN. That only exists as a means for weakening the USA and promoting world communism.


37 posted on 03/15/2022 12:14:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: pfflier

The critics, notably the likes of patricia schroeder, never met a USAF system they didn’t like.
***I think you meant to say the critics never met a system they liked.


38 posted on 03/15/2022 6:44:21 PM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kevmo

You are right. Thank you.


39 posted on 03/15/2022 8:02:23 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: KobraKai
I thought they might have a go at upgrading the Heinkel 111.

Always room for improvement in that thing.

40 posted on 03/15/2022 11:22:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (America. Founded by geniuses. Now governed by idiots. )
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