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Germany to buy US-made F-35s to replace aging bombers
Associated Press ^ | March 14, 2022 | Frank Jordans

Posted on 03/15/2022 10:55:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Germany will replace some of its aging Tornado bomber jets with U.S.-made F-35A Lightning II aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons, the country’s defense minister said Monday.

Announcing the decision, Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht said Germany also will upgrade its Eurofighter Typhoon fighter jets for electronic warfare — a capability that’s also currently fulfilled by the Tornado jets. The Eurofighter will be replaced beginning in 2040 with the Future Combat Air System, or FCAS, that’s being jointly developed with France and Spain, she said.

Germany’s air force commander, Ingo Gerhartz, said the Russian war in Ukraine made it necessary to choose Lockheed Martin’s F-35s. Previously, the government had considered replacing the Luftwaffe’s Tornados with a mix of different U.S. and European-made aircraft. […]

The German military does not have nuclear weapons of its own, but as part of the system of nuclear deterrence developed during the Cold War it maintained bombers capable of carrying U.S. atomic bombs, some of which are stationed in Germany.

The opposition Left Party criticized the decision to purchase almost three dozen F-35s for Germany’s military. …

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: andagain; eussr; f35; fourthreich; germany; luftwaffe; nato; nukes; putin; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 03/15/2022 10:55:25 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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2 posted on 03/15/2022 10:57:56 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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“U.S.-made F-35A Lightning II aircraft capable of carrying nuclear weapons”

A bit of a scare headline. A Toyota Tundra is also able to “capable of carrying nuclear weapons.” That’s not why I own one.


3 posted on 03/15/2022 10:58:29 AM PDT by Renfrew
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Are you looking to nuke someone?


4 posted on 03/15/2022 10:59:51 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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I didn’t realize that the F35 is considered a bomber.


5 posted on 03/15/2022 11:00:01 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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Germany finally upgrading from their Ju-88?


6 posted on 03/15/2022 11:01:30 AM PDT by KobraKai
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The F35A is a modified version that’s intended to deliver nuclear bombs.


7 posted on 03/15/2022 11:02:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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The Finns are buying 64 of them.

I’m all for selling this stuff to NATO and European countries to keep Russia in check...but why do we need to have 100,000 American soldiers in Europe when we are being invaded across our Mexican border?


8 posted on 03/15/2022 11:03:42 AM PDT by Pxzftrnqfrn
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“I didn’t realize that the F35 is considered a bomber.”

It was sold as the Swiss Army knife of fighters. IMHO it can perform many roles while excelling at none of them.


9 posted on 03/15/2022 11:04:04 AM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: Olog-hai

What a swell time for the MIC to make a few bucks.


10 posted on 03/15/2022 11:04:09 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Virtually every warplane that Germany has acquired since 1945 have never seen a day of combat. F35s are top of the line but doubt the Germans will ever use them in war.


11 posted on 03/15/2022 11:04:32 AM PDT by allendale
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Recall that the Messerschmitt ME-262 jet fighter with the swept-wing design pretty much inspired the design of modern civil jet aircraft and military jet fighters following.


12 posted on 03/15/2022 11:05:20 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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The opposition Left Party criticized the decision to purchase almost three dozen F-35s for Germany’s military.

“We reject arming the Bundeswehr with new, nuclear-capable combat jets,” said Ali Al-Dailami, the party’s deputy defense spokesman. He warned that equipping German pilots to drop U.S. atomic bombs could “fuel the risk of nuclear war in Europe.”


The same crowd that wants to defund police
and then complains about a rise in crime.


13 posted on 03/15/2022 11:09:24 AM PDT by IAGeezer912 (One out of every 20 people on the face of the earth are Americans. We have won life's lottery.)
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The German Luftwaffe saw action for the first time since 1945 during Operation Deliberate Force.Six interdictor-strike (IDS) version Tornado's, escorted by eight ECR Tornado's, pinpointed Serb targets around Sarajevo for the Rapid Reaction Force artillery to attack.
Source Wiki.
14 posted on 03/15/2022 11:09:35 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: allendale

Where did you get that notion?

The Luftwaffe saw combat in Bosnia and Kosovo. They also provided support operations in Afghanistan.


15 posted on 03/15/2022 11:11:17 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Ironically, Die Linke is the renamed East German Communist Party. When in a weakened state, they always take an anti-war stance.


16 posted on 03/15/2022 11:12:16 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MercyFlush

Well, one of the things it appears to be excelling at is... it’s very popular and easily sellable. It is also pretty good at knocking adversary aircraft out of the sky, although it hasn’t yet really been battle tested [maybe the Israelis?] so everyone has to rely on exercises against the F15s.

The sense I am developing is that it’s worth getting. I used to think it was a bit of a turkey.


17 posted on 03/15/2022 11:15:06 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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Neither is the Tornado


18 posted on 03/15/2022 11:15:30 AM PDT by wny ( )
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To: KobraKai

The Tornados are at least as good as a strike eagle in their role if their crews get the fuel and engines to train. Lets admit what the germans air force role is, screening the Gen 5 fighters and bombers, and soaking up the counterforce so the B52, B2, B1 can get to their launch points. The next 2-5 years the skies over the EU will get loud again even if this ends in the next 4 months.


19 posted on 03/15/2022 11:19:31 AM PDT by protoconservative (Been Conservative Before You Were Born )
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“We reject arming the Bundeswehr with new, nuclear-capable combat jets,” said Ali Al-Dailami, the party’s deputy defense spokesman. He warned that equipping German pilots to drop U.S. atomic bombs could “fuel the risk of nuclear war in Europe.”

The German left is only capable of looking at the negative side of things, from one side (Germany), while not looking at the negative side of things by the other side (Russia). Have the German left examined that the Russian side has much bigger capabilities to deliver nuclear weapons, and that Germany is one of the prime targets for those nuclear bombs?

Or, are they part of the naive left that believes that if the western world disarms, that the belligerent countries will also disarm? What should happen is that, the naive left politicians and their supporters, be made prime targets by positioning all of them near military compounds.
20 posted on 03/15/2022 11:20:25 AM PDT by adorno
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