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Crows Are Self-Aware and 'Know What They Know,' Just Like Humans
getpocket ^

Posted on 01/10/2022 7:16:10 PM PST by algore

Crows are even more surprisingly smart than we thought. But do they have true consciousness? Research shows that crows and other corvids “know what they know and can ponder the content of their own minds,” according to STAT.

This is considered a cornerstone of self-awareness and shared by just a handful of animal species besides humans.

In new research published in Science, German scientists put crows through a series of puzzling tasks. During those tasks, the scientists measured neural activity in different kinds of neurons with the goal of tracking how crows were sensing and reasoning through their work. They sought to study a specific kind of thinking called sensory consciousness, and they chose birds in particular as an evolutionary history pivot.

The task is simple, but involves some high-level brain stuff:

“After the crow initiated a trial, a brief visual stimulus of variable intensity appeared. After a delay period, a rule cue informed the crow how to respond if it had seen or had not seen the stimulus. [A] red cue required a response for stimulus detection (“yes”), whereas a blue cue prohibited a response for stimulus detection.”

“Sensory consciousness, the ability to have subjective experience that can be explicitly accessed and thus reported, arises from brain processes that emerged through evolutionary history,” the researchers write.

“Today, the neural correlates of consciousness are primarily associated with the workings of the primate cerebral cortex, a part of the telencephalic pallium that is laminar in organization. Birds, by contrast, have evolved a different pallium since they diverged from the mammalian lineage 320 million years ago.”

The birds performed in a way that affirms their sensory consciousness, which scientists say could mean the “neural correlates of consciousness” date back

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a long time ago, back when the mostly coins had mostly forgotten roman emperors on them The empire enforced the Death Penalty on anyone who killed a crow.

More recently in the mid 1980s the University of Washington one semester sent students out to torture crows while wearing George Bush masks.

for years the crows would attack anyone wearing a GW mask

I wonder if they still do ?

1 posted on 01/10/2022 7:16:10 PM PST by algore
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george hw bush masks to be clear


2 posted on 01/10/2022 7:17:23 PM PST by algore
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As any crow can tell you: “There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”


3 posted on 01/10/2022 7:19:02 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The experts are liars. The conspiracy theorists are the people who have figured out the Truth.)
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Vikings used the raven on their flag. It was for sure out of respect. Smart birds indeed corvids are. Hey they eat rats, so what more can one say?


4 posted on 01/10/2022 7:19:39 PM PST by packagingguy
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“I know. You know I know. I know you know I know. We know Henry knows, and Henry knows we know it. We’re a knowledgeable family.”


5 posted on 01/10/2022 7:20:46 PM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: algore

I bet the crows are smarter than the researchers.


6 posted on 01/10/2022 7:21:40 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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RE: Crows are self aware just like humans....

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Except Biden.

“End of prepared speech to read.”
“Boy if I say more now they’ll really make me regret it back there.”
“I’m looking forward to good news on Covid in 2020.”


7 posted on 01/10/2022 7:24:44 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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Blue Jays are in the same family and they’re also quite smart.


8 posted on 01/10/2022 7:24:58 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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They steal and eat baby birds out of the nests of others as well. They were really bad about stealing baby hummingbirds at one house I had.


9 posted on 01/10/2022 7:25:06 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Let's go Brandon)
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The ones in cartoons were very clever, and annoying, but I don’t think the real ones are self-conscious.


10 posted on 01/10/2022 7:26:13 PM PST by x
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Hey they eat rats, so what more can one say?

We need some in the US Capitol Building.

11 posted on 01/10/2022 7:30:29 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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Crows,,,
I have a Special Distrust
for them.


12 posted on 01/10/2022 7:30:51 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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Oh Shitite,does this mean more Democrat voters? Are they all named Jim?


13 posted on 01/10/2022 7:31:34 PM PST by Rembrandt (-a sure sign a Dem is lying - his lips are moving.)
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Smarter than most leftists:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fable+the+raven&oq=fable+the+raven&aqs=chrome..69i57.13547j0j4&client=ms-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#


14 posted on 01/10/2022 7:31:49 PM PST by willk
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To: algore

What I want to know is what it takes to make a crow blush.

I’ve asked, but they’ve never told me.


15 posted on 01/10/2022 7:31:54 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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I used to feed birds outside of my workplace. Occasionally, a crow would come along, and later when he saw me outside, he’d circle back and fly down to stand before me. They are extremely intelligent birds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGaUM_OngaY


16 posted on 01/10/2022 7:32:17 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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I hope you never get caught up in a “Murder of Crows”


17 posted on 01/10/2022 7:32:25 PM PST by algore
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To: 17th Miss Regt; doorgunner69

Yes corvids eat just about anything. Just like humans. That is the reason there are so many of both of us.

“The eye that mocks a father, that scorns an aged mother, will be pecked out by the ravens of the valley, will be eaten by the vultures.” Proverbs 30:17

That’s how ravens killed bison in the American west.


18 posted on 01/10/2022 7:37:04 PM PST by packagingguy
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I have known for a long time crows are smart and organized, 30 years ago, my dog caught and killed a crow in the backyard, within 2 days we had hundreds of crows for months, constantly attacking my dogs, raising havoc and they literally destroyed the cover on my boat, it took 3-4 months til they left


19 posted on 01/10/2022 7:38:44 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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You ever pretend to pick something up then pretend to throw something at a crow? They always fly off.

Them birds are smart.


20 posted on 01/10/2022 7:39:41 PM PST by Sarcazmo
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