Posted on 05/04/2021 4:07:52 AM PDT by Norski
"The best-case scenario is that someone is engaging in domestic surveillance. But there's a much darker scenario that could be in motion.
There are a handful of protections for the American people that the Deep State wishes didn’t exist. The Freedom of Information Act is the most famous and powerful as it has been used over the decades to uncover some of the most nefarious actions by government while acting as a deterrent to prevent them from being even more dastardly.
One of the least ballyhooed and utilized protections is the public transponder data available to track aircrafts and ships. Even the vast majority of military vehicles are subject to this type of tracking with notable exceptions under certain circumstances. It was through this tracking that Creative Destruction Media was informed by sources that a government surveillance plane has been circling the site of the Arizona ballot audits. This plane and others have been doing so from the beginning and continue to do so today.
Don’t be fooled by the stock image of the mundane-looking Pilatus PC-12/47E. This is a powerful surveillance tool often used by military and intelligence to collect unbelievable amounts of data with infrared cameras capable of seeing through obstructions and high-def cameras that can read license plates from the sky. It’s a Big Brother tool that would make Marvel’s “Hydra” proud, all wrapped up in a plane that could pass as a charter hop.
Following the loop of this particular plane reveals it originated at the Phoenix Deer Valley Airport. This almost certainly means it’s the spy plane used by the Phoenix Police Department. We have reached out to the department for confirmation and to ask about the case for this particular flight on April 30. With no major crimes . . . "
(Excerpt) Read more at americanconservativemovement.com ...
“I’m not saying there is nothing nefarious about this, but there isn’t enough information to be sure”
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Correct; which is why posted in this forum.
Worth investigation, obviously.
And if they mimed in blackface? Would they still be white supremacists?
heh, heh. lol
Maybe so, but the picture of the aircraft's supposed flight path (from the article) is completely impossible, showing it staying inside a small (2 miles on a side) box by making instantaneous switchback turns.
They are looking for the mob that rioted at the Capitol on the 6th. They have been rumored to be heading to AZ vote recount to cause schenanighans.
Same stock number in story.
Would like to see a model of a higher end military model as described as possible in article.
Looked at the https://www.flightradar24.com/airport/phx
to see what is visible. Unsure.
Flight path at article looks to be possible for a helicopter, but not a fixed wing. There are zigzag patterns here. Also does not designate altitude. Hmm.
Ok, but the story doesn't say it's a helicopter.
Did not see your post before I posted after doing a closer look but appears that we checked same items.
In agreement.
Now to find helicopter and altitude, or small child with blue crayon and a map of the Phoenix Metropolitan area whose parent posts on Flightradar.com
Why do you balk at posting backup?
You clearly know how to click the post button, so that isn’t it.
True, but cannot think of any fixed wing that can do zigzags of 170 degrees. Perhaps it was UFOs.
Perhaps just clickbait? Hm.
Excellent theory. One should always attempt to find out what’s going on. Believe that is what we are here doing.
I'm not for a minute saying there isn't any manner of dirty tricks and trench-coat mafia skullduggery going on at the AZ recount; the wild, panicked reaction of the Democrats and MSM is enough to make one fully suspect that. But printing stories that are "supported" by information that's obviously made up (like the supposed flight path diagram in this story) does nothing to help our cause, and makes us look like nut jobs.
Just like the "Bill Clinton had a temper melt-down at the Lewinsky deposition" story did back in 1998.
Nowhere near as much outright lies. Do not lose heart here.
Have not heard of “American Conservative Movement” previously but am doing searches. Takes time.
Will check out this site further.
Also have not used flightradar previously.
Check use https://globe.adsbexchange.com/
This story is by the same author as this one:
“High school track star breaks 800-meter school record, falls face-first at finish line as mask restricts breathing
She was in the process of breaking the school record when she suddenly couldn’t breath.”
Hm. Same site.
Do not know.
It’s circling a mile or so to the west:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3955837/posts
Looking at
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9VMiccE8vnRzXfJd9
the Fairgrounds are at Dowell and 19th Ave, which is at northeast junction of I-10 and I-17, miles away from the map
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3955837/posts
showing the aircraft circling pattern at Westridge Park at I-10 and 202 junction, west of I-17.
By the way, if the plane was going 150 mph and pulled a two G-load turn, it’s turn radius would be 873 feet; therefore it would describe a semicircle about a one-third of a mile across when turning through an angle of 170° or so.
Yes, understand. But the zigzags of the flight pattern on the redartracker site cannot be duplicated by fixed-wing aircraft.
Yes, but you and I both know that bad information from our side is treated completely differently by the wider MSM than they handle and accept criticism for their own lies, even when those lies are repeated 24-7-365 for three years straight.
For better or worse, we must hold our media to a higher standard. Not fair, but reality.
Do you have a source for that? (Favorite Freeper question, I know.)
Yes. So - Helicopter? or UFO?
Lies made up of whole cloth?
Also, got the degrees backwards. Not 170 degree zigzags, look - those are 10, 20 degree turns. On a pivot point. Cannot be anything which cannot stop and hover, then change direction and move.
Have the feeling it would be fairly obvious with more digging and a 3d map of the area. Plus taking a look at the flight time with https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ , with the persistence feature on to record flight path and altitude, but have not yet mastered that site search. Frustrating.
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