Posted on 08/10/2019 11:47:43 PM PDT by Stanwood_Dave
Did the founding fathers know about repeating arm's circa 1776?
You bet they did!!!!
2nd Amendment = Muskets only -- my A$$ it does.
2nd Amendment, History, Muskets vs rifle, repeating arms
Don't know how many people reading this are familiar with the many different types of repeating arm's that the founding father's would have seen personally, and or known about.
Their is a video over @ YouTube called "The History of the Second Amendment"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhBwHiLcTG8
This is a video, very well worth your time.
Toward the end of the video, it mentions:
"Hand Cannon(s)" from the 14 century. @ 38:56 of the video.
"Hand Cannon(s)" that could shoot up to 10 rounds. @ 38:59 of the video.
"Volley Gun(s)" some having up to 20 barrels. 16 century stuff. @ 39:03 of the video.
Duck Foot Pistol @ 39:08 of the video.
Pepperbox Revolver @ 39:11 of the video. were around hundreds of years before the 2nd Amendment.
Belton Flintlock (Was offered for sale to the congress of 1776) @ 39:21 of the video.
See also: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Correspondence_between_John_Belton_and_the_Continental_Congress
Girandom Air Rifle {Not a Musket, but a rifle.} {Known as the "Wind Rifle" in Austria 1780's.} @ 40:07 of the video. Could shoot 20 rounds in less than 30 seconds. Also used during the Napoleonic war's. POTUS Jefferson (the third POTUS from 1801 to 1809,) outfitted Lewis & Clark with this gun.
Puckle gun @ 41:10 of the video. A manually-operated flintlock revolver patented in 1718 by James Puckle (1667–1724)
Kalthoff Repeater @ 41:22 of the video.
Not in the video, but discovered by search(s)
Cookson Volitional Flintlock Repeater, first made in 1750 in the UK (41 years before the Second Amendment was ratified). The Victoria & Albert Museum in London has a Cookson Gun, dating to 1690.
The Cookson apparently used the Lorenzoni System (first developed in 1680 — 111 years before the Second Amendment was ratified) as its internal mechanism. As with the Kalthoff, the Cookson appears to have been expensive to build and operate, hence it was relegated to a historical footnote instead of taking the world by storm.
While the Founders had heard of the concept of multiple-shot firearms, it wasn't until the idea of interchangeable parts came about as a practical form of technology — in the 1820s[6] — that they became a real possibility.
Lorenzoni repeater: Since a firearm is useless unless it is loaded, gunsmiths were trying to reduce the reloading time as much as possible. One of these inventions was the Lorenzoni repeater. The Lorenzoni repeating system was invented by a gunsmith named Michele Lorenzoni from Florence, Italy around 1660 or so. He used it for both muskets as well as pistols.
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Pandora’s box has been open a long time. Relax and know John Browning got out along with Colt, Smith and Wesson, Henry, and Remington among others. They ain’t going back in her box. If I only had a musket I’d find an opportunity to use it then pick up the M4.
Then I ought to be able to wear my swords and get my own cannons too.
And yet somehow these libtard fuchers believe abortion is in the constitution.
You can’t have a rational debate about snything with socialist libtards. None. You cant because whatever they do its all about you compromising so their hegelian dialectic keeps edging things their way.
Socialists need to be destroyed. Can’t be reasoned with.
It would be a good look :)
More to the point, the MILLER DECISION of the SCOTUS of 1939 makes it PLAIN that the militia was to be ALLOWED arms of the “same sort & kind” as the regular military forces of the USA.
(MILLER also plainly states that IF the militia is called to the common defense, that the central government will provide the militia with such expensive items as WAR SHIPS, ARMED AIRCRAFT, HEAVY ARTILLERY, MINES, BOMBS, ROCKETS, etc, as it is “unreasonable to require the individual members of the militia to report for military duty with such expensive items of equipment”.)
Note: MILLER does say that IF a member of the militia has a piece of heavy equipment that is NEEDED for the common defense, that the owner MAY BE REQUIRED to report WITH that item. - For example: a CHAINSAW, BOAT, BULLDOZER, CARGO TRUCK or TRACTOR.
(When the LA militia was activated in the aftermath of Hurricane Carla, NUMEROUS contractors/companies in the construction business were REQUIRED to report for duty WITH their heavy equipment.)
Miller also states that WOMEN & OLDER CHILDREN may be called to defense duty if the emergency is severe enough to require their service.
(Fwiw, I was one of the teenaged persons who was “, summoned to local defense duty” after Carla. = I spent my militia service preparing/serving food & drink & also carrying messages to various persons. - To paraphrase an old quote, “They also serve who peel potatoes, make coffee & serve soup.”)
The LEFTISTS mostly KNOW that FACT but choose to LIE about the MILLER decision.
Yours, TMN78247
I imagine that the last of the signers of the Declaration of Independence lived into the 1820s.
I imagine more powerful weapons were made from the time the 2nd amendment was written until 30 or 40 years later.
Is there ANY article written by ANY signer that states regret about the 2nd amendment?
The one way the Constitution is a “living document” is that equivalent technology is automatically brought under the protection of the rights spelled out because the rights re philosophical.
How would the MSM like to be stuck with hand presses?
So many of our cannons were privately owned cannons.
I guess we can all get cannons then. Stupid libtard fuchs.
Twill be the last we hear from them!
Just suppose we did go back. I think the libtards would regret .69 calibre lead balls, especially at close range where dirty wadding gets blown into the wound. Also bring back 18 inch triangular bayonets and cutlasses. Want to go to boss and arrows, broadsword and battle axes? Rocks?
I’m game. Anyway, any day.
See my tagine. It’s the family motto. It’s Celtic. It says, “We are Victorious!” We never quit.
They also knew of artillery.
No distinction was made between military and civilian guns.
With no navy to speak of, privateers were used to combat piracy in the 1790s. They had cannons. The deal from the gov was they got to keep to loot of the pirate or some it. Doing remember which.
1st Amendment=printing press only!
bkmk for later
“Then I ought to be able to wear my swords...”
But never talked about problem of Life control. People don’t think it exists but if you look at your state, your county and city laws regarding knives you would be surprised how much control there is over a knife and a lot of people are walking around or carrying illegal knives.
Look at the knife laws in Virginia, I think they were on the State Police website
There are all kinds of things that are illegal in knives, knife tips, daggers...it’s amazing. I was quite surprised and that is only at the state level, when you get down to the city and county level there could be variances thereof, and I’m certain there is. But nobody ever talks about it because it doesn’t seem like it would be an issue but if you’re ever arrested or pulled over or whatever and checked and you have any illegal knife on you you will be charged.
In my State open carry is legal. But if you have the wrong knife?
The muskets argument is pretty easily turned on it’s head.
At the time the 2nd amendment was written, muskets were pretty much the state of the art infantry weapon.
By that logic, the citizen’s access to military grade weapons should not be infringed.
Exactly
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