Posted on 09/23/2017 12:22:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
At a political rally in Alabama, President Donald Trump encouraged American football fans to “leave the stadium” when they see “those people” taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. The predominately white crowd chanted “U-S-A” in affirmation, and Trump urged NFL owners to “Get that son of a bitch off the field” for “disrespecting” the flag.
Again, we see that President Trump is stoking white prejudice and fears to position himself as the heavy-handed authoritarian who can reclaim order - even in the NFL. Trump threw down the gauntlet and the NFL needs to decide: is it on the side of their players and employees or are they selling a fantasy in football about equality and progress in America?
What Trump and many NFL owners want fans to believe is that the players, many of whom are Black, are not impacted by the hostile political and racial climate of the United States. Three weeks into the football season and the NFL is still silent about the blacklisting of Colin Kaepernick for his protest rather than his play. This silence is deafening at a time when NFL players are requesting a month dedicated to activism and social justice.....
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Another one for you boys..
Now I’m telling you, leave me alone.
Years ago there was subtlety, strategy and nuance in basketball. Intelligence was part of the game. Today it's thug ball - run and shoot, run and shoot, run and shoot. Repeat, repeat, and repeat...
Lol! I was thinking of launching a parallel En Eff El Dead Thread Week X to counter the NFL Live Thread Week X, but with all the anti-nfl threads that pop up seemingly every two hours here, I doubt we even need one. :)
The nfl hates you America!
That's a leftist ideal, friend.
Love it or hate it, professional sports is one of the few remaining merit-based industries in the country. If you don't make the cut, you're unemployed, which is essentially the conservative way.
Race based quotas? No thanks.
Its sad that the black community put us through this. The officer was always in the right in this case. Black leaders were lying all over the place. And they are responsible for the riots that occurred after this shooting. Its also true that the Brown family is guilty of starting the riots. Their portrait of Brown as being a child getting ready to go to college was knowingly false. He was instead a huge monster without regard for others or their property. The family released a much younger picture to the media, making Brown appear much smaller and younger. And calling him a gentle giant.
Are you saying that any business can suspend the First Amendment? They can certainly fire you for disruptive behavior but you still have a right to speak if you choose to risk your job. And I support that view as the rest of my post makes clear.
Your analysis is correct. I wonder why my interest in the game died many years ago. I think you put your finger on that. Make Basketball Great Again....
The NFL should tell the players to respect America while playing football and stand during the playing of our National Anthem.
If, on their own time, they wish to go political, so be it.
They’re very well compensated to play a game. Mistaking that for some sort of political platform is going to make them not compensated at all. Which is worse for the players, to keep their political activities on their own time, or to only have their own time with no platform whatsoever? Their choice, whether or not the team ownership agrees with them or not. The viewing public ultimately decides. Not the players. Not the team ownership. No viewers, no ad revenue. No ad revenue, no team. It’s really a simple concept. Grasp it, before it’s gone.
But.... I if any player in black magic marker wrote MAGA on his shoes, they would NOT allow him his right to free speech. Only Black Lives Matter and PC stuff. THE NFL Commissioners are totally biased. No real honest effort here to play games of sports, but to push their social agenda. Moving OUT of the knot hole zone.
“That’s a leftist ideal, friend.
Love it or hate it, professional sports is one of the few remaining merit-based industries in the country. If you don’t make the cut, you’re unemployed, which is essentially the conservative way.”
How it “should” be, I agree with you. How the laws are today... he is right. The great disparity between the workers and the population is accepted as primafacia proof of discrimination in any other area and it should be enforced here.
One of the best ways to demonstrate a bad law is to enforce it. If they would like to get political and inject race into the NFL... Then lets have the throw-down, it will be hilarious to see them jump through hoops and make racist statements trying to justify that they do not discriminate against Hispanics, whites and Asians. They are all under-represented inside the NFL player roster.
As long as they have nothing to lose, they have no reason not to double down on ridiculous positions such as claiming it is racist to have so many white coaches because the player base is majority African American.
After they get the message that this is not an area they want to pick a fight on... we need to do the exact same thing with gerrymandering and city boundaries. If it is wrong for congressional districts, then it is wrong for major city boundaries. Quite a few cities might flip if cities had to take the neighborhoods next to the malls and office buildings that the city annexed for the tax basis. The city of Houston city boundary is as offensive as any congressional district I’ve seen drawn for political purposes.
The satanic left are itching for a race war. They’re doing a pretty good job if inciting violence, I have to admit.
Methinks the way to win this is to first un-brainwash the brainwashed liberal whites.
The First Amendment is a limitation only on government power. It prevents the government from restricting speech. It has no impact at all on private enterprise. So it's not that a private enterprise can suspend First Amendment rights. In private enterprise, there are no First Amendment rights to suspend. It's a subtle but important distinction.
They can certainly fire you for disruptive behavior but you still have a right to speak if you choose to risk your job. And I support that view as the rest of my post makes clear.
Yes, I wasn't disputing the conclusion of your post, only pointing out that there is no right to free speech in private enterprise. The football players do not have any Constitutional right to do what they're doing since their teams and the NFL are private enterprises. Unless there is a clause in their contracts giving them them the right to do it, they can be fired without repercussion.
See my post 54. There is no Constitutional right of free speech in the NFL. The NFL and the team owners can do whatever they want to about this. The fact that they are willing to let these thugs get away with their crap, but would likely punish someone who wrote "MAGA" on their shows tells me all I need to know about the NFL. That is why I have not watched any games since Crapernick started this stuff and will continue to not watch any games or spend any money on the NFL until they get it under control.
I should have been more clear asserting player rights to free speech since this has been the battle cry of the left in their support of CK. LBJ, Curry, CK and the rest can tweet all they want on their time but leave it there when you come to work just like ordinary Americans must do.
Since NBC makes money, or tries to, off the NFL, doesn’t the net have one mother of a conflict of interest here...?
And of course Kaepernick who apparently feels hate for whites, was adopted and raised by those very racists....while abandoned by the wonderful black father and single white mother. Does this remind you of any other person’s family history? Abandonment by black father, raised by white folks, praises blacks, while deriding white people? Seems as if I’ve heard this all before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_finances_of_professional_American_athletes
Here is the top part...
The personal finances of professional American athletes is a subject of widespread discussion due to the often high salaries of such athletes and the high rates of personal bankruptcy and other financial distress.
According to a 2009 Sports Illustrated article, 78% of National Football League (NFL) players are either bankrupt or are under financial stress within two years of retirement and an estimated 60% of National Basketball Association players go bankrupt within five years after leaving their sport.[1] Originally the statement “60% of NBA players go bankrupt within five years after leaving their sport” was released by a representative of the NBA Players’ Association in 2008 [2][3] A Fortune magazine article states, however, that a working paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research found that the percentage of NFL players who go bankrupt after two years is a much smaller 1.9%, climbing to 15.7% after 12 years.[4]
Dignity.
Ha, ha, ha, he, he, he,...
That was a good one.
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