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The Left After Charlottesville
Jacobin Magazine ^ | September 7, 2017 | Robert Greene II

Posted on 09/08/2017 5:43:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Left can't allow itself to be consumed by debates about antifa. We need a proactive program and patient organizing.

The events in Charlottesville have remained in the headlines for the last few weeks for a variety of reasons. Surprise at the audacity of a torch-light procession of neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan sympathizers, and “alt-rightists” in an American city, coupled with the murder of social justice activist Heather Heyer during a counterdemonstration, fueled the initial coverage. President Trump’s abhorrent response to the tragedy and local struggles against Confederate statues kept it alive. And frequently dimwitted debates about the merits of antifa have supplied yet more conversational oxygen.

But it would be a mistake for the American left to see this as a decisive turning point in history, or mistake torch-wielding fascists for a mass force. On the contrary: getting consumed by debates about supporting antifa in its street clashes with neo-Nazis misses the larger political landscape....

(Excerpt) Read more at jacobinmag.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: charlottesville; democrats; jacobin; singlepayer; trump

1 posted on 09/08/2017 5:43:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
>...coupled with the murder of social justice activist..<

Which has been determined not to be a murder but the death by natural causes.

2 posted on 09/08/2017 5:51:01 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was just like the battles between the white supremacist National socialist (NAZI) brown shirts and the international socialist (Communist) black shirts in Germany. It was a battle for which flavor of leftism would prevail. Both sides were OK with orchestrated crisis that they would initiate, but blame on the other side. The Right Wing never had anything to do with either except to fight them both.


3 posted on 09/08/2017 5:54:18 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: ex91B10

What.... natural causes????

Missed that ... documented where


4 posted on 09/08/2017 5:54:50 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: ex91B10

Was she the one killed by the car backing up?


5 posted on 09/08/2017 5:55:00 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Left can’t allow itself to be consumed by debates about antifa.
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Because the antifags are correctly viewed as anarchists by Americans.
OFA and Soros funded all of these left wing groups to destabilize American society and it is coming back to bite them.


6 posted on 09/08/2017 5:56:47 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: ptsal
The mom says she died of a heart attack in an NBC interview: Heather Heyer’s mom said in an NBC interview she died of a heart attack

https://t.co/23UpWuARQk

7 posted on 09/08/2017 5:58:42 PM PDT by ex91B10
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To: MtnClimber

Bingo! See the Hayek quote on my FR profile page for some very astute observations on that, from someone who was around and paying attention at the time. It’s the 3rd one down, 2 paragraphs.


8 posted on 09/08/2017 5:59:08 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Surprise at the audacity of a torch-light procession of neo-Nazis, Ku Klux Klan sympathizers, and “alt-rightists”

Don't forget the Occutard organizers.

And have central casting nazis ever used tiki torches before?

9 posted on 09/08/2017 6:03:07 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Did Barack Obama denounce Communism and dictatorships when he visited Cuba as a puppet of the State?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Well, they lost me with the magazine title. The Jacobins were the driving radical faction for the Reign of Terror during the French Revolution.

Contemporary cartoon: Robespierre guillotining the executioner after killing everyone else in France.


10 posted on 09/08/2017 6:04:46 PM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I like watching leftist neo-Nazi snowflakes melt like a puddle of dog piss.


11 posted on 09/08/2017 6:12:54 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: ex91B10

Thanks


12 posted on 09/08/2017 6:29:16 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: ex91B10

Thanks for posting that - I had not seen or heard that anywhere.


13 posted on 09/08/2017 7:45:48 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Rinnwald
...Robespierre...

He was from the same town as the last guy to be drawn-and-quartered in France. The [probably mentally ill] guy attacked Louis XIV (XV?) with short blade knife in the middle of Winter when the king was thickly clothed.

Wikipedia says Robespierre was anti-capital punishment, but I came across a reference to a DP debate where Robespierre was pro, and his opponent, Brillat-Savarin, was against.

14 posted on 09/08/2017 8:22:03 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How about the left after shooting up of congressmen? It is like this very grave decapitation attempt is not even talked about, just a stupid wacko set up by a mayor to confront leftist protestors


15 posted on 09/08/2017 9:05:07 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: MtnClimber

Yep, I can garrantee you that if a Trump voter gunned down white supremacists at a rally, the liberals would blame the NrA and not blame the supremacists as they do in the case of liberal attacks on supremacists


16 posted on 09/08/2017 9:07:50 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: ex91B10

I bet Jacobin Mag was all over the attempted massacre of 20+ Republicans by a Bernie-Bot. /s


17 posted on 09/09/2017 2:11:39 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

I’m in favor of Lefties doing teach-ins at union halls!


18 posted on 10/24/2017 1:29:21 AM PDT by namvolunteer (Obama says the US is subservient to the UN and the Constitution does not apply. That is treason.9we)
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