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To: Morgana

Or a third possibility:

People who do not trust the rule of law have more violent outcomes.

It is not race. Europeans in the middle ages had as high murder rates as we see in lawless areas of the world now.


2 posted on 12/18/2016 4:54:02 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Well said.


3 posted on 12/18/2016 4:55:03 PM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: marktwain

In math figures don’t lie.

In Africa the number one killer of a black male is another black male. Same here in America. That stats show this.


4 posted on 12/18/2016 4:56:21 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: marktwain

It always boils down to culture, not race. America embraces excellence and celebrates success. Lesser cultures should be confined to their Petri dish if they are incompatible and their people cannot acclimate to ours.


5 posted on 12/18/2016 4:57:50 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?!?)
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To: marktwain

Take a trip to Africa, you’ll come back a changed person.

Rule of law and civility amongst the G7 is what gives the world a foot up.


7 posted on 12/18/2016 5:01:24 PM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: marktwain

Actually democrats are racists. They prevent urban blacks from the education that would allow them to succeeded, leaving a birth to prison track as the only option. Violence is a learned response to the deprivation they suffer. When John Glenn was preparing for his orbital flight he had a black woman, recalculate the ibm computer’s numbers because he trusted our first coders more then a machine. If allowed African’s should dominate physics and math, but the left needs slaves more then people making money and paying taxes


10 posted on 12/18/2016 5:05:13 PM PST by waynesa98
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To: marktwain

“Or a third possibility:

People who do not trust the rule of law have more violent outcomes.

It is not race. Europeans in the middle ages had as high murder rates as we see in lawless areas of the world now.”

How about a fourth or fifth?

People who have no trust or reason to trust in the law or authority *and* feel that they literally have nothing to lose, will do or take as they please. The Law be damned.

#5
People with a very short ‘event horizon’ for gratification often do things or take actions with thinking of any consequences...

i.e - Bro’s in da hood - worry about the next (booze/blunt/woman/whatever) and not what might come next week or the fallout from their actions....

People like Carnegie - they worry about what effect their decisions and actions will have on the grandchildren.

Each has a vastly different outcome in life.

(See the book - The Unheavenly City)


11 posted on 12/18/2016 5:05:44 PM PST by ASOC (Have *you* visited the World of the Chernyi?)
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To: marktwain

I can’t remember the name of the book, but it’s about welfare whites in England. They have the same issues as our welfare blacks here. The common theme ... welfare. Welfare destroys souls.


14 posted on 12/18/2016 5:08:04 PM PST by D Rider
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To: marktwain

People with lower intelligence resort to violence as being a more acceptable way of expression, and go along with mob violence easier.

The Bell Curve is not a lie.


21 posted on 12/18/2016 5:19:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

“People who do not trust the rule of law have more violent outcomes.”

That’s part of it. It’s about the “civilizing process”.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/23/us/historical-study-of-homicide-and-cities-surprises-the-experts.html


24 posted on 12/18/2016 5:27:36 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: marktwain

Drop street gangs and drug dealing out of the included statistics and the crime rates for black people plummet.


35 posted on 12/18/2016 5:56:03 PM PST by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: marktwain

How can anyone know what the murder rates were in Europe in the Middle ages?


39 posted on 12/18/2016 6:42:30 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: marktwain; Pelham; Morgana; Travis McGee
It is not race. Europeans in the middle ages had as high murder rates as we see in lawless areas of the world now.

that's a canard you can't possibly prove and second in the so called Middle Ages it was a state of war and authoritarianism and banditry while Europeans strove to settle politics and boundaries and civilize so they could become cucked like today so they can be invaded by savages from the Islamic world

Morgana is providing data....you do get the big insult in your post right?

You're saying whites used to be worse or as bad without offering proof but by doing that you're suggesting that tropical negro race is less evolved

That's a big shamey for les politically correctibles

But let's go back to say 1200 AD worldwide ....Europeans roving and killing but the Church and Monarchs trying to impose will...fair enough....Comanches and Mayans are roving and skinning enemies and enslaving them and commiting what we now call genocide and in occasion eating one another and building simple stone structures ...oh and human sacrifice and again more cannibalism.....Asians....who cares really....there were no Kurosawa movies yet.....now the Negroid people's...it depends ....some costal folks soon to be visited by Arabs were a hair civilized and built multi story structures and had fiefdoms but no phonetic alphabet and little development of beasts of burdens etc but the rest was dark...very very rough.. as in savages and they've pretty much stayed that way despite television and Rambo t shirts

the knee jerk weakness to always minimize or denigrate western civilization has destroyed us....it's the mothers milk of social justice warriors

58 posted on 12/19/2016 9:53:03 AM PST by wardaddy (trump is a great tourniquet but that's all folks.......)
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