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Isn't this something that ABC is bringing this up at this point and time, especially right after Sarah Palin basically stated at CPAC that Obama wasn't vetted. Also don't count out Sheriff Arpaio's Maricopa County Sheriff Departments Cold Case Posse lead investigator Lt. Mike Zullo's meeting with high ranking political VIP's at CPAC over Obama's fraudulent documents.
1 posted on 03/21/2013 4:37:24 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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There IS a conspiracy among major media to take down threats to the status quo. Here’s a perfect example.


2 posted on 03/21/2013 4:38:44 PM PDT by skeeter
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I think they are using it as an article to “Paint” Cruz as an “Insane Birther”...

As birther is now a prejoritive...


3 posted on 03/21/2013 4:41:39 PM PDT by GraceG
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Constitution does not explicitly define the phrase. The Constitution doesn’t define any words! Guess ABC didnt’ know that!


4 posted on 03/21/2013 4:44:30 PM PDT by satan69 (garden)
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I posted comments to the article at the ABC News site on what a true Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen is and a little factual history on past presidents who had a foreign born parent just in case a liberal hypothetically say’s “It doesn’t matter, other presidents had foreign born parents”. Let’s see how long my comments stay up before they are scrubbed.


5 posted on 03/21/2013 4:53:19 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: LucyT; null and void

Good post at #7


9 posted on 03/21/2013 5:13:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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ABC is trying to diffuse what they know is coming.

The article is pure tripe. Totally unrelated clips about non issue Presidential candidates.

The only ones that are/were clearly not eligible lied about it. That is President Authur and Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. (or whatever his real name is).

The rest listed are simply noise to confuse.

Smells like something big on the horizon.


10 posted on 03/21/2013 5:13:44 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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Americans who obtain their citizenship through application and subsequent issuance of a Certificate of Citizenship (McCain, Cruz, et. al) or Certificate of Naturalization (Obama) are not natural born citizens because their certificate can be revoked by Court order or an administrative hearing order. See Magnusson v. Baker http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=19901241911F2d330_11191.xml&docbase=CSLWAR2-1986-2006 .

Revocation by a Naturalization Court

A naturalization court has authority to revoke its citizenship judgment. See 8 U.S.C. § 1451. However, Congress has strictly limited the grounds which support revocation. The only grounds are proof of concealment of a material fact, willful misrepresentation, or procurement in violation of law. 8 U.S.C. § 1451(a).

A natural born citizen does not have a certificate of citizenship or certificate of naturalization to be revoked. A natural born citizen uses a vital statistic record of live birth to prove birth within the territorial limits of the U.S., but does not have a certificate issued by the Federal government that can be revoked. Consequently, Jindal and Rubio are natural born citizens.

A U.S. citizen can move out of the country and voluntarily revoke their citizenship. And voluntarily revoking your citizenship can be acts construed by the SoS as deemed to have voluntarily revoking their citizenship, i.e. an oath of allegiance to a foreign country with renouncement of U.S. citizenship to foreign authorities. See Vance v. Terrazas http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=444&invol=252

Jindal, Rubio ... natural born citizens without a certificate of citizenship or naturalization that can be revoked.

Cruz, McCain ... citizens at birth and not natural born citizens (despite Resolution 511) because they each applied for citizenship and were issued certificates by the Federal government which could be revoked.

Terrazas of Vance v. Terrazas ... natural born citizen born in Maryland with one U.S. Citizen parent and one foreign national parent had his citizenship revoked after he signed and pledged an oath of renunciation of his U.S. Citizenship to Mexican authorities in Mexico.

12 posted on 03/21/2013 5:21:19 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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That’s funny. I thought Obastard was at the heart of the birther conspiracies.


13 posted on 03/21/2013 5:24:53 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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Propaganda masquarding as news. I despise the one stream media.

Proverbs 6

There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him:
haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
a false witness who pours out lies
and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

I despise the one stream media.

15 posted on 03/21/2013 5:29:27 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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I warned people here that the liberal loons who avoided Obama’s lack of eligibility would have no compunction, the hypocrites, to go after our guys.

All of a “sudden” ABC news is a natural born citizen birther?!


21 posted on 03/21/2013 5:58:32 PM PDT by Red Steel
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As usual they are completely ignoring the fact that the US citizenship laws for Hawaii in 1961 were DIFFERENT than for all the rest of the US at that time. It was overseen by the Supreme Court at that time, and the citizenship acts for the rest of the US - DID NOT APPLY during transition to statehood... I guess that’s too difficult for ABC to grasp though.

Also agree that there is much more that is wrong in their “report”.


25 posted on 03/21/2013 6:30:23 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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ABC should be investigating rather than criticizing those who are, shame on them


27 posted on 03/21/2013 6:39:47 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Apparently, the “birther” accusation is replacing the McCarthy accusation of being a communist!

We are becoming so stupid and petty as a society, these are the equivalent of “your mother wears army boots” when I was a kid!


30 posted on 03/21/2013 6:53:25 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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33 posted on 03/21/2013 7:19:16 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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just get it over with and make 0bama OFFICIALLY SUBMIT the birth certificate he’s flaunted to the world

what? what would be the problem with that?

all you anti-birthers should be ok with that... right?


41 posted on 03/21/2013 8:17:36 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Who wrote the misleading headline?


42 posted on 03/21/2013 8:19:04 PM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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a natural born citizen is someone that is a citizen naturally... AS THERE WERE NO ALTERNATIVES

it’s an extremely simple definition.


43 posted on 03/21/2013 8:21:46 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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This could be a good thing. Rubio especially has a very weak claim to constitutional eligibility. (He simply isn't, you know?) If he is removed from a state ballot, and sues for reinstatement, that would fast-track an appeal to the SCOTUS, forcing the black-robed slackers to get off their duffs and do their job.

However, my read of of the moss on the pine trees says that Kid Kenya's relationship with Reggie Love is the real dynamite in this log jam. Some enterprising reporters ought to trace Reggie's movements ... they have, I am reliably led to believe ... intersect frequently with you-know-whose. This is real.

The guy LIVED in the WH for months. When early in the '12 campaign he surfaced in a homo porn video, they disappeared him overnight outa town with a bundle of cash and no kiss good-bye.

44 posted on 03/21/2013 8:45:17 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (The Obama Molecule: Teflon binds with Melanin = No Criminal Charges Stick)
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They’re at it again.


45 posted on 03/21/2013 9:17:27 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't assume Shahanshah Obama will allow another election.)
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It should never be forgotten that it was the Clintons who gave birth to the "birther" movement.

During the first Obama presidential campaign, in August, 2008, Bill Clinton was asked if he thought Obama was qualified to be president. Clinton knew what was meant by the question but instead of commenting about Obama's character, experience, knowledge of foreign and domestic policy, and leadership abilities, etc., he offered this rather cryptic reply:

"The constitution sets qualification for the president. And then the people decide who they think would be the better president."

"The constitution sets qualification for the president."? That's his answer? Bill Clinton made this reference to the Constitution shortly after America's latest fad, the "community organizer" from Chicago, popped up out of nowhere and stole his wife's destiny by winning, in rather sleazy fashion (including the shameless playing of "the race card"), the Democrat party's nomination for President.

It has been my opinion since that time that the Clintons know something, and that it was they who quite deliberately fanned the flames of controversy over Obama's birth. Remember, it was a prominent campaign-fund bundler and Hillary Clinton supporter, Philadelphia lawyer Philip Berg, who launched *the first* Obama eligibility lawsuit. That lawsuit was filed in August of 2008, shortly after Bill Clinton made his curious reference to the Constitution when asked if he thought Obama was qualified to be President. Coincidental timing? Sure it was.

No, the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms never vetted Obama. Why would they? Everything anybody wanted to know about Obama they could read in his two autobiographies. (shrug) What's to vet?

Meanwhile...

Associated Press Devotes 11 Reporters to "Fact Check" Sarah Palin Book

47 posted on 03/21/2013 9:25:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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