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Gun Hypocrisy: With so many guns what are 2nd Amendment enthusiasts waiting for?
Nolan Chart ^ | December 9, 2012 | Joel S. Hirschhorn, libertarian

Posted on 12/22/2012 4:29:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Puzzling me for a long time is the inconsistency between two claims by gun and Second Amendment supporters. One is that what they worship is critically needed to defend themselves against a government that they would view as oppressive and unacceptable. The other is their belief that the US government has already become awful, stealing their liberties.

Why then, I keep asking myself, have we not seen a violent uprising among the untold millions of Americans owning guns to take back their government? Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments?

There is more private gun ownership in the US than any other nation. We have a far right part of the population with considerable public presence and power. FOX News, the Tea Party movement, and countless groups and think tanks angrily attacking the mainstream media, liberals, and leftist politicians as well as just about everything done by President Obama.

So, why hasn’t the massive number of gun nuts who keep expressing their love of the Second Amendment actually done what they claim is exactly needed, what the Second Amendment was created to give them the right to do, and what their massive gun power supposedly gives them the means to accomplish? Especially when they lose major elections, when their Republican and conservative politicians fail to deliver to them?

Are the paranoid doom and gloom gun nuts waiting for things to get a whole lot worse before they actually implement the grand plan to use their guns to overthrow what they see as an evil, unconstitutional and oppressive government?

From their perspective, how much worse does the government have to become before they finally get the courage to use their guns and restore American democracy and liberties?(continued)

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; cw2; cwii; guncontrol; obama; secondamendment; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
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I've wondered that myself, from a different perspective, of course.
1 posted on 12/22/2012 4:29:40 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Im not sure what the go signal will be either, but some will notice it before others.


2 posted on 12/22/2012 4:34:47 PM PST by samadams2000
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America is still in that awkward in-between age. But the left is working hard to push us over the edge.


3 posted on 12/22/2012 4:35:49 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’re smarter than they are and have a far greater respect for the American ideal which makes us unwilling to throw it away to get what we want.

We’re certainly not going to be goaded into a fight by this clown.


4 posted on 12/22/2012 4:37:40 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s it.

I wonder IF and HOW MANY will recognize Obama’s reichstag fire.


5 posted on 12/22/2012 4:45:00 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d say it was because most thinking people understand that the next civil war will be a terrible affair. Our society still bears scars from the last one, 150 years ago. One does not undertake such a thing lightly.


6 posted on 12/22/2012 4:47:14 PM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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Or, just give up, bite the bullet and shoot yourselves. Make us gun control enthusiasts happy.

Man, those leftists REALLY dig calling for the deaths of their enemies.

But, yeah, it's okay when they do it because they're all about peace, love, etc.

7 posted on 12/22/2012 4:52:23 PM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would seem that most Americans are not arming up just to obey any orders from the government to register, turn in, store in an armory, etc, their best self-defense against tyranny.

The way its looking now it will start like it did the last two time there was massive armed resistance on US soil. Both times the trigger was when they came to confiscate the people’s firearms.

They cannot bring about Bill Ayer’s goal of killing 25 million Americans unless we cannot fight back.


8 posted on 12/22/2012 4:53:25 PM PST by Mechanicos (When did we amend the Constitution for a 2nd Federal Prohibition?)
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To: GenXteacher

Yup and the left desperately wants to goad us into a fight for a reason. Our challenge is to refuse to let them do it so we can fight them smart and on our terms.

If you look at the way things are going within the individual states, the future isn’t looking so hot for the democrats. Republicans hold all 3 branches of government in 23 or 24 states and the democrats hold all 3 branches in 13 states. The trend is not looking good for the democrats at all.


9 posted on 12/22/2012 4:53:47 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is not time yet.
The parameters have not been set.

I have the opinion that some folks are waiting for the “low-inforamtion” crowd, to bubble over and foment, thereby, it would be in response, not in aggression, with the same sort of outcome, or so I’ve heard.


10 posted on 12/22/2012 4:55:43 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why?

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.”

You don't lightly throw your country into a civil war.

11 posted on 12/22/2012 4:58:01 PM PST by Little Ray (Get back to work. Your urban masters need their EBTs refilled.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s called keeping our power dry, and I think it’s still wise for now.

I also think it will obvious when it’s no longer wise, and I think they’re pushing to wards that point as I type.


12 posted on 12/22/2012 4:59:46 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I’m starting to think it happened in Connecticut just recently.


13 posted on 12/22/2012 5:04:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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Joel S. Hirschhorn, libertarian

I think this gentleman is confused about what the word libertarian means. Either that or it is end times, with black meaning white, up meaning down and libertarian meaning gun-confiscating commie.

14 posted on 12/22/2012 5:04:46 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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I don’t know why, but this buffoon wrote this crap weeks ago (December 9th) and yet reminds me of Joel Chandler Harris:

"Skin me, Br'er Fox, snatch out my eyeballs, tear out my ears by the roots, and cut off my legs, but do please, Br'er Fox, don't fling me in that briar patch!" —Br'er Rabbit

15 posted on 12/22/2012 5:06:25 PM PST by Brandonmark (OWCM is The new American Minority! 11.06.12 - Day of Infamy!)
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Why then, I keep asking myself, have we not seen a violent uprising among the untold millions of Americans owning guns to take back their government?

I've said this before and I'll say it again, despite all the bluster and chest thumping by the keyboard commandos, we won't ever see one as long as the thumpers have jobs, mortgages, payments on their new Dodge Ram 1500's and families to provide for..........

16 posted on 12/22/2012 5:08:02 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

God forbid, if we have a ‘next one’ within the next month, that will certainly do it.


17 posted on 12/22/2012 5:08:12 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: dagogo redux

‘Why do we not see what goes on in European nations, namely violent public uprisings against governments? ‘

Huh??? Have I missed something?

What public uprisings in Europe?

Is this author referring to the uprisings in the MidEast and northern Africa?

These uprisings were inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood in an effort to overthrow the current governments.

Some people must write just to hear themselves think.


18 posted on 12/22/2012 5:08:19 PM PST by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: dagogo redux
The limp-wristed faggot that wrote this article seems to be pushing toward that point.
19 posted on 12/22/2012 5:10:31 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What we are all waiting for is a George Washington.


20 posted on 12/22/2012 5:11:50 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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