Posted on 10/28/2012 11:15:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
If you think comparing Mitt Romney’s supporters in the American South to the Civil War’s Confederacy would be irresponsible and racially suggestive, Daily Beast “Daily Dish” blogger Andrew Sullivan apparently disagrees with you.
“If Virginia and Florida go back to the Republicans, it’s the Confederacy, entirely,” Sullivan declared on this weekend’s “This Week with George Stephanopoulos.”
“You put a map of the Civil War over this electoral map, you’ve got the Civil War,” he added.
That comment drew the ire of Washington Post columnist George Will, who said the president’s policies — not racism — are influencing voters in states like Virginia and Florida.
“Democrats have been losing the white vote constantly since 1964, so that’s not new,” Will said. “Here’s what we’re trying to talk about — 2008, Obama gets that many white votes. This time the polls indicate he may get this many. We’re trying to explain this difference. Now, two possible explanations — a lot of white people that voted for Obama in 2008 watched him govern for four years and said, ‘Not so good, let’s try someone else.’ The alternative — the Confederacy hypothesis is those people for some reason somehow the last four years became racists.”
Sullivan countered that he wasn’t necessarily alleging racism.
“I’m just pointing out the fact that the white people that have changed their minds happened to be in Virginia and Florida,” Sullivan responded. “And if you actually look at the map, they were the only two … the Southernization of Republican Party, they were the only two states in 2008 that violated the Confederacy rule.”
“You made an empirical statement that is checkable and false, which is the white people moving, moving away are in those two states,” Will countered.
This rooster sucker still doesn't get it. If it was just Virginians and Floridians, then why isn't Obama winning Indiana or polling at double digits ahead in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin?
This is as effing stupid as rooster sucker's pathetic rants about the Pains and their kids.
Yes, the demented “Trig Truther” Sullivan. Indeed, when I caught the show while flipping channels, it was the initial sight of a two-shot of Sullivan/Wallace together that grabbed my attention, being well aware of how both these idiot scumbags were rewarded with their current spotlight and status as network pundits by their outlandish lying and smearing of Palin.
A good read, and quite telling also. Once the Union private interests took over the Southern private property (excepting slaves who were considered capital property in those times) and land, they then proceeded to put cheap labor factories in place and a new form of wage slavery for all who were thus economically trapped. So it was the Progressive socialists/neomarxists who used this meme and who replaced the real plantation with the govt. plantation, using the template of the “downtrodden” labor masses, and took over private enterprise into their industrial combines and railroads— and in the process making slaves comprised of many types of dependency of a whole lot more people, black and otherwise. And it was always the Democrat party preserving the status quo, however they could.
A crowning example of the statement that “Socialism is Theft”.
Not wanting to start another thread— but this has been the point of descendants of the propertied class of the South:that slaves became “constituencies” for the Progressives (working through the Freedmens Bureau and Reconstruction to impose federal political control over the “conquered” states, and later through the welfare state and War on Poverty)working to expand the Statist conquest over our Constitutional Republic and the total removal of States Rights. We have now come full circle, where the worst possible conservative to the Progressives, is a black conservative (Herman Cain, Thomas Sowell, etc.).
So now we are constantly bombarded by challenges to the States by an ever growing monumental Statist federalist government- a product of the Democrat party. Deo Vindice.
When you think with your crotch, your withering brain comes up with crazy notions like Andrew expressed here.
Yes, and Sen. Robert Byrd, Democrat, was Grand Kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan.
If the Confereracy is to come back, we southerners must all become Democrats.
Lol...I just built some slave quarters on the patio. Can’t wait for the cotton to ripen in the window box!
I don’t care who you are....that’s just plain funny!!
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!
Figured a little rebel yell wouldn't hurt.......Might make Andrew Sullivan crap his pants though :)
I don’t get it. There a lots of red states that weren’t in the CSA, and not just the ones out west that didn’t exist at the time.
HIV/AIDS or prions?
When Romney takes NH, PA, OH from Obama, the “confederacy” theory will be exposed for the idiocy that it is.
That’s funny, the confederates were Democrats.
He’ll take KS, MO, IN, KY, and WV for sure. He has a great chance to take IA, WI, and MI. Add those to NH, PA, and OH and you have 11 Union states. His analogy is garbage.
Here’s the thing, Sullivan is right about the racism, just ascribing it to the wrong people.
Whites, as a group, and due largely to white Christian men, are the last bastion of issue and policy driven voters. Everyone else votes their identity.
Identity politics is the real racism here. By not recognizing that, Sullivan reveals that he’s part of the problem.
Well, this explains the AP poll that came out this week, showing the US is more racist now than it was 4 years ago. They’re laying the ground work for the reason for Obama’s defeat-racism, not rejection of socialism.
On the good side, however, is that the Dims see that Obama is going to lose!
Clowns have more self respect them dems.
Not to mention polls already show Indiana (an Obama state in 2008) is already strongly in the Romney camp. Last time I checked, they stayed in the union, not the confederacy.
I think the race card is finally worn out.
Yep, if there’s any single hack I despise more than Sullivan and McGinniss, it’s that backstabbing harpy Nicolle Wallace. And it galls me that if/when Romney wins the election, then she will likely land some nice juicy high profile job in his administration so that I have to see her evil smug grin day after day on the news talk shows.
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