It was just like Palin and Romney, except not nearly as close to each other as Palin and Romney are, and have been for years.
Posted on 06/19/2011 7:01:27 PM PDT by RED SOUTH
Here is the why Romney will be the republican nominee and why Perry or Cain or Bachmann will not save the republicans. Romney is moving left on global warming and staying the course on Romneycare and you will see him take his natural left positions on other issues as the campaign gets underway. His goal is to attract as many democrat voters into the republican open primaries as possible to vote for him. Meanwhile , Bachmann has been brought into the race by the establishment as well as Cain who has no idea. Perry is coming in too. This is to split the Tea Party and conservative vote allowing Romney to win with whatever republican votes he gets plus the democrat crossovers as the democrats will not have a primary race with Obama running unopposed.
I believe Sarah Palin knows this. I think Palin also believes the republican party is worthless. Like us , she has watched them sell out once they got the House back as the current leadership is from the same group of republicans who passed big government and huge deficits under Bush and voted for TARP and bailouts. Boehner and Cantor was there for it all. Just the other night Palin said she was watching and hoping she didn't have to go rogue on them.
The big debate has been , is Palin running? She seems to be and at the same time , doesn't seem to be. I think she is running for President but not for the republican nomination. I think she will send shock waves through the political establishment when she does announce that she is running as an Independant , going rogue. That is why she is in no hurry to announce and can wait pass the filing deadlines for republican primaries. Organizing4Palin is in 50 states , she has enough people to get on the ballot in all 50 states. The bus tours , the movie Undefeated is part of a general election strategy instead of a republican primary strategy. Her famous speech in Wisconsin was as much against republicans as it was against democrats.
Please don't bombart this thread with , no third party posts and how it will hand Obama another term. That is just plain false. Obama has sunk so low that his campaign is hopeless. Imagine the state of the race if Romney is the nominee. If you think people sat out because of McCain , you have not seen anything yet. The middle between Obama and Romney will be wide open and a conservative candidate could beat them both easily. Perot lead Clinton and Bush in 92 before he dropped out and got back in again.
...and unworthy of conservatives.
. The Palin-as-kingmaker concept is also flawed when one looks at her record, which is hardly that of a manipulating power-driven pol...
Would her ability to be a kingmaker survive her decision not to run? Hard to say.
Again, aside from the trolls, too many liberal talking points are used against Sarah Palin by folks who should know better...
I worry about the future of the party and the country when conservatives are yoked with the likes of these.
Thank you for being civil about it. Too many on here are not civil. We can disagree without being disagreeable.
...about why Palin shouldn't run.
Agree totally. Romney loses Iowa (he is not their kind of candidate) and $ dry up. Then, with no $, he loses NH, and it's all over. He is Guilianni, 2012.
Palin will not run.
Right now the field is wide open, and the eventual candidate may not even be mentioned at this point.
Remember the name Thune.
Very plausible.
Very well stated, and VERY TRUE.
Every time I see this 'logic' I shake my head.
What conservative candidate worth voting for will not be savagely attacked by the press?
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Half right.
I have given a lot of thought to her actual, real-world qualifications based on her performance as mayor and Governor as well as to whether or not her quitting with multiple excuses would kill her chance to be elected and imo she is neither qualified nor electable.
What does that mean? What makes some a hyper-conservative, and what makes one a "mainline, Ronald Reagan conservative?"
I'm amazed that some don't recognize the very rhetoric being used against Palin was also used against Reagan.
IMO, trying to create daylight between RR and what you call "hyper-conservatives," is flawed in the premise.
No, I don’t see Thune suddenly becoming somebody, then sweeping the conservative base, then suddenly becoming a record breaking, fund raising monster, and then crushing the already in place, fully developed, GOP establishment supported, Romney machine.
I'm sure there are many who have the credential you claim who would disagree with you. What value does it confer?
Those are meaningless numbers at this point.
I am a Palin supporter...yet I recognize that the election is for her to win or lose, not me.
She will have to move those numbers. I think it's very doable.
You seem to be making the mistake a lot of Generals make, fighting the last war.
No, she will be the President—and all rinos, progressives, Marxists and other Alinsky-following crybabies will have to deal with it.
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It was just like Palin and Romney, except not nearly as close to each other as Palin and Romney are, and have been for years.
Like in 2008?
Exactly
I hear you. But I would never go so far as to vote for zero, I would die first.
If Romney gets the R nomination, I will not vote for him and I will encourage everyone that I know to not vote for him.
I will simply write in the name of someone who is true conservative patriot.
No more rinos.
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