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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: cynwoody
And you are willing to embarrass yourself intellectually by advancing the most absurd theories in support of your magic bullet.

I have? Name one.

261 posted on 06/08/2011 12:04:31 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: cynwoody
You could use a base metal instead, such as two thirds of the senate that you don't have. And are not going to get at the rate you are going!

But you're going to get them to convict him on bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia or ordering Boeing out of Governor Haley's state. LOLOL

262 posted on 06/08/2011 12:06:41 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; UnwashedPeasant
I've got CS5, the latest version except for an enhanced version of that. The 1's are identical and so are the boxes, zoomed 300, 400, 500, 600 percent, identical to the pixel eyeballing them.

It's late, and I won't do the 1's, but I copied the first of the three blank boxes, pasted it onto a new transparent layer, nudged the copied and pasted first box over the second box with the move tool, lowered the opacity of the top layer so I could see better compared to the layer below if they matched. Totally identical. Did it twice to make sure.

I didn't post the examples. UnwashedPeasant did. I just commented on the post.

263 posted on 06/08/2011 12:27:19 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Tex-Con-Man; UnwashedPeasant

Sorry, you posted that to UnwashedPeasant not me. The rest of my post to both of you is as I said.


264 posted on 06/08/2011 12:31:42 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
They are not identical.

If they were identical, the "RGB" or "CMYK" composition of each pixel would also be identical. It clearly is not.

Choose a pixel. For example, upper right corner pixel. Use your eyedropper tool (point sample) with the color picker window open. Compare the upper right corner pixel of each "1". They're different colors. Thus, they are not "identical".

There are other visible differences as well. Minor, but they're there.

265 posted on 06/08/2011 12:44:49 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Aliska
So what is the difference between kerning and proportional spacing?

Let me chime in here from my long ago years as a typographer (and by the way I knew Irey and his company).

Proportional spacing accounts for the difference in space that each character occupies on a horizontal line in a typeset line. For example, the character M, which is the widest character is most fonts (along with W), takes up the most space, and would be allocated, in one system, 18 units (an EM space), the maximum. Now the letter "i" as the narrowest in the font, would be perhaps 3 or 4 units wide.

Proportional spacing was not a common feature in typewriters, where all characters were given equal amounts of space in early typewriters. In later years, and with the IBM Selectric series' use of the ball element, limited proportional spacing was available. Proportional spacing is characteristic of typography, rather than common office typewriters. I make the distinction because IBM had a series of typewriters called Composers, which in some ways emulated typography in a limited manner.

Numbers by the way, are traditionally all the same width, or else you could never create columns of numbers that aligned. There are a few fonts where the numbers have different widths, but those font designers have since been severely reprimanded.

Kerning, on the other hand, takes into account the way characters fit together in a manner that is pleasing to the eye. For example, an upper case "W" and a lower case "e" would be kerned, with the "e" sitting nicely under the serif and stroke of the "W", making them easier to read.

I hope this helps.

266 posted on 06/08/2011 12:45:09 AM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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To: freedumb2003

No sarc tag needed.

You just don’t know what you’re talking about.


267 posted on 06/08/2011 12:48:45 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: conservativegramma
" In any case, yet ANOTHER expert weighing in on proof of forgery now going beyond layering and OCR, or kerning. You'd have to be an idiot to believe this thing is genuine. JMO. "

That makes all those who either voted for this half/American born freak show , his usurpers/supporters, Obotcyborgs, and those who believe in La La land that some how he is legit .... GENUINE IDIOTS
268 posted on 06/08/2011 12:55:23 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: conservativegramma
" The story will only die if we let it "

The story and issue will die only if we let the MSM and the Obot propagandists succeed in their ability to spread lies and deceit.
269 posted on 06/08/2011 12:58:45 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: bobby.223
" Dead on the money Auntie! There are pair of those muslim boy hussein lovers posting on this very thread while claiming allegiance to FR. More like DemocRAT trolls for sure. “Give up”, “don’t fight this”, “get over it” they say on various threads and on and on and on. Anything to get FReepers to let the Constitution of our country to continue to be trampled on by the unsurper in chief is their goal. Oh well, I believe most true FReepers can see thru their ‘RAT propaganda just as you and I do. "

Those paid Troll propagandist Obotcyborgs get paid really good money.
270 posted on 06/08/2011 1:02:28 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cynwoody

Your crap is becoming stinky. Do you really believe that if criminal acts are proven to the satisfaction of a majority of American voters that the democraps and republicant’s would not impeach and remove your bastard? Can’t axelgreasy come up with better talking points for you people?


271 posted on 06/08/2011 1:04:22 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: freedumb2003
I am trying to get us off this track since it makes Conservatives look crazy. We have issues of substance to discuss. When we pursue this line of “argument” we just look like pouty children. And there still is no proof barry the zero was born anywhere else.

How about the worst economy since the Great Depression? How about overt attempts by his administration to take over private enterprises and use american tax dollars to pick winners and losers? How about trying to stop a private company from choosing where it will set up shop? What about shoving a non-constitutional mandate down the throats of every American?

And we want to waste time on parsing the definition of “Native Born?”

Thank you for your efforts in that!

272 posted on 06/08/2011 2:41:10 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: freedumb2003

Don’t let ‘em get to you.

They are doing what they believe is right.

There’s a difference between being an enemy, and someone who is blind.


273 posted on 06/08/2011 2:43:04 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: TigersEye
Your posting history doesn't show you to have any interest in those subjects.

Good observation, but one doesn't have to post on a matter to be interested in it.

Some folks only get involved where there's controversy. And there's not much controversy about the sorry state of the economy, I'm afraid.

274 posted on 06/08/2011 2:45:20 AM PDT by Jeff Winston
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To: Auntie Mame
I agree that we and our candidates should not allow ourselves to be squelched on any issue, including the birth certificate, now false birth certificate, issue. Candidates should bring up its falsity, be prepared to defend their contention, and present evidence to the press who will immediately demand it. Plenty of expert analysis attesting to and proving the phoniness of the suddenly-found Obama BC has appeared on FR and other sites, none of which I've seen refuted. Obamanoids can do their own research.
275 posted on 06/08/2011 3:15:03 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Obamania in 2012)
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To: TigersEye

Why don’t you address your questions to the guys at Langley.


276 posted on 06/08/2011 3:24:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Auntie Mame
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hiss/pumpkinp.html ~ Alger Hiss said there was. Some of his supporters actually tricked out another Underwood typewriter of the same vintage so it would type the same as the original.

Although it was far fetched to believe that someone with access to Hiss' original typewriter would even think to create a different one with the same microscopic characteristics in the typed text.

Still, it could be done just no one could think of a single reason why it would be done ~ particularly since Hiss had not yet been caught!

277 posted on 06/08/2011 3:46:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TigersEye
I am not suggesting anything at all ~ just pointing out a logical fallacy in the earlier argument which is that EVERYTHING WAS TYPED AT ONE TIME ON ONE MACHINE.

Now, does that mean they changed typewriters in the middle of a word? Probably not, but they did change the location where certain items were typed.

Irey would need to demonstrate that everything typed at the BOH office, including other forms typed at the same time (they exist), do not show that characteristic.

Throughout this particular debate I've assumed both machines were electric typewriters. However, the typewriter at the hospital in the Birthing Center may have been a manual. In that case you would EXPECT differences to occur in typing due to the typist pressing the keys with different pressure ~ particularly if the typist's primary job was not, for example, typing, but, instead carrying babys around.

Maybe Irey has done nothing but prove the nature of the environment and the type of typewriter used (manual vs. electric).

Irey's examination shows many beaucoup "a" impressions that he thinks are different enough for us to be interested in. Lo and Behold, the "a" on the keyboard is pressed by the little finger on the lefthand and that's usually the weakest carpel in the bunch.

That means Irey's discovery is highly probable if one of the typewriters used to prepare the document was a manual!

278 posted on 06/08/2011 3:57:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: conservativegramma
It's the same old article. Irey's stuff has been out there quite some time. This is simply the same piece posted again somewhere.

There's nothing new in any of this.

279 posted on 06/08/2011 4:00:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I find it odd.


280 posted on 06/08/2011 4:21:13 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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