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Expert: Obama doc is 'proof' – of fraud
World Net Daily ^ | June 7, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma

Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines

The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.

Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.

"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.

"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."

Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: betrayed; birthcertificate; birther; certificate; certifigate; corsi; eligibility; hopespringseternal; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; obama; thistimeforsure; wnd
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To: cynwoody
Nah, I think bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia or ordering Boeing out of Governor Haley's state would be more than adequate grounds (unreviewable by any court, in any case).

So, we have enough Senators to convict him of that but not on the "berfer" (obvious troll wordage) issue?

221 posted on 06/07/2011 10:31:52 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: freedumb2003
"Congratulation on the single stupidest post in FR history."

Not really...
Try looking up Vattel's natural law.
That's where it came from.

Your just too stupid to understand what it means.
Hence fourth your screen name freeDUMB2003 .

222 posted on 06/07/2011 10:32:01 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: freedumb2003
All of your posts were much stupider than that. LOL
223 posted on 06/07/2011 10:33:00 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Gene Eric
Why rule out forgery?

Because, before any court would listen to senile document analysts, it would simply ask the State of Hawaii for another certified copy. Then the judge would look and see if any material facts differed between what Hawaii coughed up directly and what the White House put out. If so, then guilty! If not, then no forgery! In either case, no need for typeface foolery or PDF layer befuddlement. LOL!

224 posted on 06/07/2011 10:35:16 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

wrong


225 posted on 06/07/2011 10:37:26 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone

Not only wrong but ridiculous. Courts don’t do investigations that’s up to the prosecution and the defense to supply evidence.


226 posted on 06/07/2011 10:40:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: conservativegramma

Of all the articles out there about Obama’s BC forgery, this one, to me, is the most striking.

Birth certificates in 1961 in Hawaii were undoubtedly typed on manual typewriters with an inked, reusable ribbon. The government offices probably used the same models but each typewriter would have its own specific footprint.

There is no way on a manual typewriter anyone would be able to partially type a word and then take the paper out and put it back in and line it up perfectly to continue on typing the word without it being noticeable on the page. It just doesn’t happen on a typewriter, no matter how excellent the typist is.

Thanks for posting!


227 posted on 06/07/2011 10:40:49 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: DaveTesla

He got himself into a bind with his circular logical fallacies and having nothing left but name calling decided to bail. LOL


228 posted on 06/07/2011 10:41:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
So, we have enough Senators to convict him of that but not on the "berfer" (obvious troll wordage) issue?

We have a Donk Senate, last time I checked. That means he's still President even if he was born in Mombasa of BHO, Sr. and a floozy tourist from Liverpool (which comes close to the minimum fact set needed to support the drooling birfer case).

229 posted on 06/07/2011 10:42:17 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: conservativegramma; muawiyah

I’ve asked muawiyah twice to explain why there are different typefaces on the same lines and within the same words but she’s not going to touch that one.


230 posted on 06/07/2011 10:45:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
Not only wrong but ridiculous. Courts don’t do investigations that’s up to the prosecution and the defense to supply evidence.

The prosecution and the defense do the legwork. But the judge (and jury) gets to decide if they did it right. One way or another, it would come down to what the State of Hawaii has in its files.

That's why arguing document forensics is a waste of time.

231 posted on 06/07/2011 10:47:44 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
We have a Donk Senate, last time I checked. That means he's still President even if he was born in Mombasa of BHO, Sr. and a floozy tourist from Liverpool (which comes close to the minimum fact set needed to support the drooling birfer case).

But you think he can be convicted for these things?

Nah, I think bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia or ordering Boeing out of Governor Haley's state would be more than adequate grounds (unreviewable by any court, in any case).

LOL

232 posted on 06/07/2011 10:47:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

He is a putz.


233 posted on 06/07/2011 10:49:37 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: cynwoody
One way or another, it would come down to what the State of Hawaii has in its files. That's why arguing document forensics is a waste of time.

Not if they get the source documents subpoenaed not another copy.

234 posted on 06/07/2011 10:49:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: DaveTesla

Yes, one of the lamer anti-birthers to ever disrupt a thread. This article wasn’t even about the definition of ‘natural born’ it was about document forgery. An entirely different high crime.


235 posted on 06/07/2011 10:51:46 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: cynwoody

That’s why arguing document forensics is a waste of time.

Baloney if what you say is true then a forged document in state records could never be challenged. It can and it can be inspected by forensics experts.

What if somoene inserted a forged document saying Obama was born a female 2 years later than he was supposed to have been born, could that document be inspected for forgery even if Hawaii said it was not?

It appears there are some short circuits on logic, common sense and reasoning on some of these threads.


236 posted on 06/07/2011 10:54:01 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Eastbound

“I forget where this came from or if it’s even real, but for what it’s worth I am posting it here anyway. I found it in my archives from an earlier screen capture from I know not where. “

And yet you post it anyway...

It was a fake manufactured to prank the Birthers.


237 posted on 06/07/2011 10:54:55 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: rolling_stone
It appears there are some short circuits on logic, common sense and reasoning on some of these threads.

(agenda)

238 posted on 06/07/2011 10:55:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
Not if they get the source documents subpoenaed not another copy.

Duh. The State of Hawaii is the Source of the source documents.

So, there is no point in forging one of those documents unless you plan on obliterating the Hawaii Department of Health and persuading the world it was an accident (Mauna Loa did it, LOL). Because, unless you do that, your forgery is at risk of being exposed.

239 posted on 06/07/2011 11:00:05 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: luvbach1
I've seen such posts but I just chalked up most of them to the diversity of opinion that exists among conservatives which often manifests itself with a vengeance on FR.

I used to think this way, too. However, since Obama came on the scene, the internet discussion boards have been flooded with paid operatives. These people are paid to post on forums like this very one, manipulating people's minds. Some of them are very very good.

Also, look up "concern troll."

Once you're aware of what they're doing, you'll start to notice it more and more. And they're doing it BECAUSE IT WORKS!

There was a freeper (now banned) called MadisonChristian who posted during the uproarous time of the ObamaCare debates who is a good example of the manipulation used. She/he was always very nice, but constantly posted about her daughter with preexisting conditions and she couldn't get healthcare and how she got healthcare when she lived in Britain, but she/he really thought ObamaCare was terrible (see http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2298450/replies?c=20 for an example).

Be alert! They're out there, they're working hard because the propaganda and brainwashing works. We have to be very alert not to be taken in.

240 posted on 06/07/2011 11:01:44 PM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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