Posted on 06/07/2011 6:45:09 PM PDT by conservativegramma
Typeface analysis shows images come from different machines
The online image of a Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" was trumpeted by the White House when it was released on April 27 as "proof positive" that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
Now an expert in typefaces and typography says it sure was "proof," but not of what the White House would have wanted.
Paul Irey, a retired professional typographer with 50 years experience in his business, has says an analysis of the typefaces used in the Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate that the White House released on April 27 reveals it absolutely to be a forgery.
"My analysis proves beyond a doubt that it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter," Irey told WND.
"Typewriters in 1961 could not change the size and shape of a letter on the fly like that," he said. "This document is definitely a forgery."
Irey acknowledges that an IBM Selectric typewriter could have produced different typefaces in a given document, but only if the Selectric ball was changed every time a different typeface letter was struck which would be unlikely to have been done to produce the word "Student," for example, that had two different styles of the lower case "t."
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
>>Is the possibility of having Obama shamed in the least and/or removed from office before the election of no political value?<<
it is now of negative political value.
The “Natural Born Citizen” thing is more than ridiculous (but it has been entertaining).
I am trying to get us off this track since it makes Conservatives look crazy. We have issues of substance to discuss. When we pursue this line of “argument” we just look like pouty children. And there still is no proof barry the zero was born anywhere else.
How about the worst economy since the Great Depression? How about overt attempts by his administration to take over private enterprises and use american tax dollars to pick winners and losers? How about trying to stop a private company from choosing where it will set up shop? What about shoving a non-constitutional mandate down the throats of every American?
And we want to waste time on parsing the definition of “Native Born?”
There would be no point in forging the LFBC, given Hawaii holds the master copy. Therefore, if you want to attack the document, you have to attack Hawaii (across two administrations of opposite parties). Good luck!
Only drooling Alzheimers patients worry about the minutiae of typewriter faces (so multiple typewriters were used? So what? Did they even have Windows for Workgroups in 1961?). LOL!
Obviously the document had to have the form box titles and lines pre-printed.
I'll stop there for now.
“NEVER, and I said NEVER uses the term
natural born citizen.”
You are a complete nut job.
I was hoping for better.
Gee when I click the link the article states JUNE 7, 2011. OLD eh? LOL!!! Keep digging hon, its getting comical.
Yeah anyone can look at the document and see proof of forgery, that’s never been the issue. The two typewriters, or several typewriters is proof of it.
And NO that is NEVER expected within NORMAL operations! You are an idiot when it comes to actually WORKING within an office if you pardon my saying so!
more bs from you. I am quite aware about forms used in the 60’s no computers etc (punchcards were in use like your usps paycheck)
Pregnant women usually had pre natal doctors visits and planned for their birth at a particular hospital. Pre registration was the norm not the exception.
so what parts of the bc were dynamic? go down the form line by line.
how did it work when you gave birth?
where did the info for the form come from? a worksheet or did they type while interviwing the patient in a hospital bed including pauses for spelling? Get real
That would explain differences in typefaces between one entry line and another but Mr. Irey found differences within the same word on some lines. Are you suggesting that they typed BA on one date and then came back and typed RACK to finish the word on another day on another typewriter as on line 8 of the form?
>>You couldn’t live in my world. Liars don’t survive here.<<
Idiots do. And they thrive.
And I defy you to point to a single lie — a$$wipe.
You took this to a place I don’t want to go. Be a fool and let the Left point at YOU as being one of the extreme R/W nutjobs.
Until you called me names, I was respectful of your position, even if I thought (and KNOW) you are factually wrong.
So continue to be a nutjob and give our enemies the ammo they need to paint us all as stupid, ignorant and insipid as you.
I bid you morrow.
I know and neither does the other case he cited. The fact is that Wong Kim Ark has language in it that supports the definition of ‘natural born citizen’ as a child of two citizen parents. But it’s not definitive because that’s not what they were arguing.
MY brother and I were first generation citizens, i. e. we were born in the USA to parents who were immigrants and not naturalized. We could not be POTUSA but fought for our citizenship in WWII. No regrets on my part and I think the same went for my brother who was killed in the battle for Okinawa.
It's nice of you to admit that you're intentionally hi-jacking this thread with your off-topic ranting.
The issue is not that 0 is not a citizen.
Obama is a citizen by birth. That's the 14th amendment.
Article 2 section 1 is the requirement for president.
Natural born born of two citizen parents.
Natural born is not a law it is a natural act
because both your parents have allegiance to the U.S..
He is a citizen but he is not natural born.
0 is unconstitutional and he knows it.
His citizenship is by law not by a natural act.
The child always inherits the parents birthright.
That's NATURAL law.
If any of this prooves true it will assure all of zeros’ bs will be undone, we the people can make that happen.
Give up.
Read the Constitution. To remove him requires a majority of the House (possible) and two thirds of the Senate (impossible). The consequence of removal would be that Plugs would be sworn in as President, and Zero would head back to Chi-town. Bills Zero signed would remain law until repealed the normal way (over Plugs's veto).
Now consider: if we had 67 senators ready and willing to remove him, would we need the birfer nonsense? Nah, I think bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia or ordering Boeing out of Governor Haley's state would be more than adequate grounds (unreviewable by any court, in any case).
>>His citizenship is by law not by a natural act.
The child always inherits the parents birthright.
That’s NATURAL law.<<
Congratulation on the single stupidest post in FR history.
No one can top that. No one.
NOW I bid you morrow.
How about the worst economy since the Great Depression? How about overt attempts by his administration to take over private enterprises and use american tax dollars to pick winners and losers? How about trying to stop a private company from choosing where it will set up shop? What about shoving a non-constitutional mandate down the throats of every American?
And we want to waste time on parsing the definition of “Native Born?”
Your posting history doesn't show you to have any interest in those subjects.
I've seen such posts but I just chalked up most of them to the diversity of opinion that exists among conservatives which often manifests itself with a vengeance on FR. Some may sincerely think we are just wasting our time on that now-blunted (unfortunately) issue while the Obamination's defects present such a huge target.
>> There would be no point in forging the LFBC, given Hawaii holds the master copy. Therefore, if you want to attack the document, you have to attack Hawaii
Paraphrasing: “As a forgery is futile, one must attack Hawaii’s dept of records?”
Why rule out forgery?
Has Hawaii confirmed the document posted by Obama is an official copy of his LFBC?
Show me where Kim was declared a Natural Born Citizen by the court.
Come on bozo.
I dare you.
The court ruled Kim was at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States.
The court ordered Wong Kim Ark to be discharged, upon the ground that he was a citizen of the United States.
Nothing more.
I don’t want to quibble with you since I admire your honesty and integrity on the issue but wouldn’t that make you a naturalized citizen and then your children would be the 1st generation?
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