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[Vanity] Stop the Herman Cain for President nonsense
EEE | 17 MAY 2011 | EEE

Posted on 05/16/2011 11:33:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'd never thought I'd see the day when conservatives fully embrace affirmative action. The myopic and destructive support for Cain for President is TOTALLY based on the simple fact that he's an articulate black man and self-made businessman, so conservatives can say, "See! See! We're not racists, we love black guys too!" But so was bland boring white guy John Cox, a businessman who ran for President in 2008, also without having zero experience in elective office. So where was the support for him?

Please spare me the inevitable BS about how you'd rather support a businessman (or use the old pick names out of the telephone analogy) than "career politicians." I am not talking about lifelong bureaucrats serving in departments or agencies, I am clearly talking about elective office. Herman Cain has ZIPPO, NADA, ZERO experience in public office and the simple fact of the matter is that in the modern political era, the American people has overwhelmingly looked to state executives (Governors), retired or military Commanders, or Senators who still had some lower-level executive or business experience for President.

Now, if Cain would have won his Senate race in 2004 or at least had been Mayor of Atlanta and then won a Congressional seat and then ran for the Presidency, then this vanity post would be moot and I would be a likely supporter (although his age would have been an issue). I have no problems with Herman Cain, I admire his background, his intelligence, his business acumen, but right now to support him for the Presidency would be a huge mistake.

Number of factors why Cain shouldn't run and he if does, he shouldn't be supported:

AGE: Herman Cain is 65 years old. The GOP has a stable of younger, more dynamic stars on the rise that refutes the narrative that they're not the same-old party of old guys. It's time for a new generation of leaders, and Cain was needed 10 years ago.

POLITICAL EXPERIENCE: No businessman, Congresscritter, and only 2 Senators in the modern era have ever won the White House. It is EXTREMELY (no pun intended) difficult for a businessman off the streets to run for President because the perception is that the American people have always supported someone who at least won elective office first. Herman Cain has never held elective office and that makes him a non-starter.

MEDIA SPOTLIGHT: Look, let's get serious folks. Herman Cain is not photo-genic, and you know what I mean. The liberal media and entertainment industry will reduce him to a caricature and completely ignore the issues, all the while spotlighting the youthfulness of Obama.

Herman Cain is not electable folks. That's not to say he doesn't have a role in the election. He should surely be a spokesman for the GOP or serve on some type of conservative outreach panel talking to inner-city blacks about how destructive liberal policies are, or he should have even been GOP Chairman instead of the disastrous Steele. All Cain will do is split the conservative vote and we get another RINO for the GOP nominee.


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KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; cain2012; cultofpalin; eee; enoughalready; stfu; vanity
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To: Cyclone59

I respectfully submit that you are not aware of how “not thin” Cain’s resume is.


101 posted on 05/16/2011 1:05:41 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (American Thinker Columnist / Rush ghost contributor)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I know how long you have been here and I really do like you but, your assertion that Cain is our affirmative action conscioius is absurd and offensive.

I never even knew he was black until a months ago. I had heard him on radio and read his bio but I guess I missed the part where his race pointed out or even a factor in his success.

I don’t understand how you can read your post and think “Not my best”?

I’d like Sarah or Michelle but if they don’t run or prevail I’d like Cain over the other Bozo’s in the race.(Ooops! Did I say race.....?)


102 posted on 05/16/2011 1:13:21 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: C. Edmund Wright
#85, very good post.

I vote for suspending all nonsense. But that would reduce the activity on this board by at least 50%.

103 posted on 05/16/2011 1:13:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"The liberal media and entertainment industry will reduce him to a caricature....."

Maybe they'll get Tina Fey to do the job.

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"No businessman, Congresscritter, and only 2 Senators in the modern era have ever won the White House"

Add 'no quitters' and your list will be more inclusive.

104 posted on 05/16/2011 1:14:32 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: chickadee
I regretfully concur with your comments. I, too, like Herman Cain, but his resume for elected office is woefully thin.

I usually read through the comments before making comments to see if anyone said the same thing I was gonna say. I don't want to be redundant. But your comment was first and was EXACTLY what I wanted to say. Yes, I like Herman Cain but I'm gonna be reluctant to vote for anyone who I don't have an idea on what they would actually do when they are in office. I've seen one candidate after another say a lot of positive things only to vote the opposite way when they got elected.
105 posted on 05/16/2011 1:15:53 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: wtc911
Quitter?

All the depth of a pothole, you have.

106 posted on 05/16/2011 1:16:20 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have listened to Cain for years in Atlanta. I like him because he is BRILLIANT.

YOU are the racist. You must denigrate him BECAUSE he’s black, for if he wasn’t, your post would be pointless.

You don’t like him, don’t vote for him. But don’t you dare tell me what I “must” do with what I DO NOT CONSIDER NONSENSE.


107 posted on 05/16/2011 1:18:46 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
We can do a lot worse than Cain as our nominee, but I hope more than anything he becomes press secretary for the next administration.

He'd be great.

Watching the the press corps deal with him would become a new spectator sport.

108 posted on 05/16/2011 1:18:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Donate just one

109 posted on 05/16/2011 1:20:23 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: caww
"then your head isn’t quite in the right place in understanding the place our nation is in today as opposed to that of the past...when an otherwise inexpereinced player might have a chance and did win."

Just because our views differ doesn't mean my "head isn't quite in the right place in understanding the place our nation is in today as opposed to that of the past..." yada yada yada nonsense ....

I thought liberals were the only one's to pull that kind of put down catty crap when expressing different points of view.

Guess not.

110 posted on 05/16/2011 1:20:57 PM PDT by GloriaJane (Pro Choice = Pro Death - Pro Life = Pro LIFE!)
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To: autumnraine
The only time I would listen to the Boortz show was when Cain was sitting in for Boortz. An exceptional individual with enormous personal accomplishments.
111 posted on 05/16/2011 1:21:21 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Put Obie in a dress and call him "The Last Queen of Scotland".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“FReepers are supporting him simply because he’s black, period.”

No, you are a racialist.

You are suggesting that anyone who supports Cain is doing so only because of his color. As if he has nothing but his affirmative action status going for him.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt for years but you crossed the line.

I had to erase a number of lines because I didn’t want to get insult you, in kind.


112 posted on 05/16/2011 1:23:19 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The FReepers who are pushing this foolishness do not understand white guilt.

Their deduction that white guilt is responsible for the situation we are in is, of course, correct.

Their solution is, however, 180 degrees wrong.

Whites who want to show blacks by voting that they are not racist are idiots, because the accusation is maliciously false to begin with. The purpose of "racist" accusations is to control the accused. Therefore, guilty whites leave the definition of "racist" to blacks.

Those blacks, who want Obama reelected, will treat Herman Cain (or Allen West, no matter) ten times worse than they treated Clarence Thomas.

And that mistreatment will profoundly affect the guilty whites, who will flee from association with Cain or West before the first (of many) Oreo cookies are thrown.

113 posted on 05/16/2011 1:25:23 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: surroundedbyblue; Extremely Extreme Extremist
How insulting.

You think I like Mr. Cain because he’s black?!?!?!? Well, let me inform you that I have a brain & can think for myself. I like what he says on his radio show, and I don’t care if he’s held public office. Frankly, I think career politicians are the problem with this country. He’s been in administrative positions in the private sector. That’s good enough for me.

114 posted on 05/16/2011 1:27:08 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Sprite518
REPLY AGAIN: And like I wrote before....Look at how well that has worked out for us!

That was Cain's answer to a question about his not having held office, whereas all the priors had.

115 posted on 05/16/2011 1:28:41 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The LIBERAL MSM is going to operate the same no matter who the GOP candidate is.

It could be a cross-dressing metro-sexual, male lesbian, half man, half woman...conservative and he will get hammered by the MSM.

So that point...doesn't wash.

116 posted on 05/16/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I have a suggestion about what kind of outreach you might be suited for.


117 posted on 05/16/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: mnehring

Crap. I can’t even tell. I guess I should shut my mouth.

I apologize. I was confused.

P.S., I don’t like Cain, Palin, Paul . . .


118 posted on 05/16/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by cizinec
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To: Jim Noble

I like what Cain has to say!!!I don’t care about his skin color!!! WOW! Unbelievable.


119 posted on 05/16/2011 1:30:47 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sorry EEE.

The politicians have screwed things up so royally that we DO need a businessman in office. Only someone who knows how turn things around fast can save us now.

We need someone who isn’t a politician to say “to hell with it” and do what needs to be done. NOT these namby pamby politicos who have their fingers stuck in the wind all the time.

The only one I see who can do that is Herman Cain. So I support him 1000%.

ps The GOP’s stereotype is old WHITE guys, of which clearly Herman Cain is not. That is the only time I will mention his color. I would vote for him if he were green.


120 posted on 05/16/2011 1:32:51 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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