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ONE MORE REASON TO READ THE BILL: MILITARY SCREWED AGAIN!
The Edisto Joe Outlook ^ | 08/04/2010 | JH Howard

Posted on 08/04/2010 9:37:39 AM PDT by Edisto Joe

Under what circumstance would a normal law abiding citizen intentionally defy federal law?

Recently a grandfather went to the post office with a care package for his grandson serving with the Marines in Kandahar Province, Afghanistan. When he went to the counter with the box, the clerk looked over the form that lists the contents and saw a carton of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco as contents. The clerk then gave the man back his package and informed him that the US Postal Service, by law, could no longer mail packages containing those items. Not even to troops serving in war zones over seas. Astonished and angered the gentleman left. He then proceeded across town to another post office, listed the contents as cookies, soap, and beef jerky, then sent the package on its way. Knowingly and willingly breaking federal law!

The recent PACT Act signed into law by the President back in April has now gone into effect. Its intentions were to stop the business of mail order cigarettes which smugglers used to avoid taxes and what many believed were being sold to minors. This was not a 2000 page bill that would require hours of reading and as always is the case with Congress in passing laws, the debate centers on the main objective and never takes into account the consequences. Besides the military issue, the bill also puts many in the Seneca Indian Nation out of business. They dominate the discount mail order trade. Ironic that this time they were screwed by a black man.

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1 posted on 08/04/2010 9:37:40 AM PDT by Edisto Joe
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To: Edisto Joe

Good old government. Making criminals out of the common man.


2 posted on 08/04/2010 9:40:17 AM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: Edisto Joe

More dumb@$$ laws ! We are at the point that we cannot do anything without the saying of “mother may I” !


3 posted on 08/04/2010 9:44:35 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: vpintheak

By design: once they felonize all crimes they can declare both the right to keep and bear arms and voting to be “outdated concepts.”


4 posted on 08/04/2010 9:44:39 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Edisto Joe

The Seneca Nation should just send them anyway- They are a sovereign nation, after all.

They need to start acting like it.

It may be that soon some of us would like to move there and become a ‘citizen’ I think.


5 posted on 08/04/2010 9:47:26 AM PDT by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed (<---oops! see?))
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To: Edisto Joe
Having had lots of experience with USPS and sending packages to Afghanistan my advice is, “always put on the content page, candy, pretzels and crap like that. Then send anything that won't explode, screw’um”.
6 posted on 08/04/2010 9:48:46 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( I never speak ill of dead people or live judges.)
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To: vpintheak

That is the point. See Atlas Shrugged.


7 posted on 08/04/2010 9:50:30 AM PDT by Pecos
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To: Edisto Joe

“All Federal Laws, Regulations, and restrictions imposed between 20 Jan. 2009 nad 20 Jan. 2013 are hereby recinded, null and void.”

Campaign promise from winning 2012 Presidential candidate.


8 posted on 08/04/2010 9:52:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Democrats: expediting the Destruction of America, before they lose power...)
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To: Edisto Joe

This may be new enforcement, but isn’t new policy.

As far back as 2004 when we were sending care packages as an organization, we were specifically told that we could not send tobacco products through the US Mail.


9 posted on 08/04/2010 10:08:42 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: HiJinx

You were lied to or misinformed.

Whoever told you that (I presume someone w/authority at whatever organization you’re talking about) said so because they don’t like tobacco so didn’t want to send it “on principle” or they were thinking about common carriers such as FedEx and UPS, who stopped shipping them awhile ago when some states threatened to draw them into contraband suits).


10 posted on 08/04/2010 10:18:58 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: Edisto Joe

Ping for a later read.


11 posted on 08/04/2010 10:21:10 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: fruser1

Actually, I read it in the USPS regulations when my organization (as in, I was the President) sent 2,000 Care Packages to Iraq and Afghanistan in January, 2006.


12 posted on 08/04/2010 10:22:52 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: Recon Dad

The postal manual suggests you put “gifts for military personnel serving overseas” on the customs declaration form. That is sufficient for both them and US Customs.


13 posted on 08/04/2010 10:25:56 AM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: Edisto Joe

Some people still believe the myth that the Nazis lost.


14 posted on 08/04/2010 10:34:58 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Edisto Joe

If all of the laws actively on the books today could be enforced, we would be the most oppressed nation on earth.

Lawmakers create laws on top of laws as justification for their function, regardless of the number of existing laws there are for the same thing.

This is why Congress and the state legislatures, federal agencies and city councils should have a cap on the number of laws, regulations or ordinances they can create. Once they reach their max, they must repeal an existing law to write a new one.


15 posted on 08/04/2010 10:41:07 AM PDT by DustyMoment
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To: Recon Dad
My feelings exactly. I have a son serving with the Marines over there. He's one of 4 dog handlers in the battalion. If he needs smokes I send em, period!
16 posted on 08/04/2010 2:03:47 PM PDT by Edisto Joe (Support our service men and women!)
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To: HiJinx

You bet, there not big on Scotch.

Where my son was they had to chopper packages up and sometimes drop them when the weather was crappy.


17 posted on 08/04/2010 3:50:53 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( I never speak ill of dead people or live judges.)
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To: Edisto Joe

My son got back two months ago. They were way up along the Northern border and getting packages to them was tough. During the winter they had times they dropped them in. But he got everything we sent him and I never mentioned the cigars or booze.


18 posted on 08/04/2010 3:54:19 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( I never speak ill of dead people or live judges.)
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To: Recon Dad

Glad he is back and I hope all is well. I thank him for his service to the country.


19 posted on 08/04/2010 6:02:57 PM PDT by Edisto Joe (Support our service men and women!)
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To: Edisto Joe

I thank him for his service to the country.

Same to yours, I’ll say a prayer for him tonight.


20 posted on 08/04/2010 6:22:27 PM PDT by Recon Dad ( I never speak ill of dead people or live judges.)
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