Posted on 05/10/2010 3:17:06 PM PDT by Davy Buck
"If Lee was a traitor (and I don't believe he was), he would be the only traitor for which a ship in the United States Navy was ever named. He would be the only traitor in Statuary Hall at the U.S. Capitol. He would be the only traitor whose image was used in a positive way to recruit military personnel to fight and win WWII. Quite an accomplishment for a "traitor", wouldn't you say. . ."
(Excerpt) Read more at oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com ...
He may have been somewhat sober that day.....
I think that he perjured himself on the Kongressional floor and abused his power in order to smear the reputation of Marines.
I believe that he conspired with groups working towards the demise and underimining of the United States of America during a time of war. Especially when he is a government official charged with providing for the National Defense.
Neither of those is protected under the First Amendment. if it is, than it should be ok (and protected under the First Amendment) for me to testify that you commited murder even though an investigation had not been completed, I was not a witness to the event, I was not part of the investigation, and you have not had the benefit of a trial. You therefore should not be able to seek damages from me, even though I strained your home life, your reputation, and ruined your career.
Likewise, a person charged with providing for the National Defense, should not be collaborating with groups that proclaim they "support the murder of our troops." You tell me how it is not traitorous for an elected Rep to support groups (and receive monetary contributions and recognition from) that advocate the murder of US Forces?
You stating that you want 0bama to fail in his policies because they are unConstitutional, is different than an elected Rep UNDERMINING THE WAR EFFORT and slandering our troops on the floor of Congress. This emboldens our enemy and enrages the host nation civilian populace as a US Goevernment official is speaking it as truth.
Maybe in some DU, or Koskids world that may be protected, but here in America, under the Consitution of the United States, that is TREASON and traitorous activity.
Section 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
I would certainly say that receiving money from and collaborating with a group that went to Afghanistan to MEET WITH THE TALIBAN certainly falls within the realm of adhering to our enemies and providing them aid and comfort.
http://biggovernment.com/author/taylorking/
http://www.wowowow.com/pov/love-shacks-taliban-sara-davidson-414630?page=0%252C0%2C0
Nobody gets out alive....
-- The NS and the Coven
So it is your position that the federal government should tell the states that they cannot allow abortions? That what they can and cannot do needs momma's approval? I figured all along that you were a closet big government type.
On the other hand, I've never heard ns unequivocally proclaim that he is a conservative.
And if I did would you believe me? More importantly, why the hell want your approval on my conservative credentials. And why should I care whether you approve or disapprove? Any boob can claim their conservative. Yourself, for example. But you outed yourself, so to speak, as a big government type earlier in the post.
The real judges on the Supreme Court disagreed with you. It was just Lincoln's men who didn't .... led by CJ Chase, who, having been one of Lincoln's cabinet members, was complicit and should have recused himself instead.
Chase was sent up there to write Texas vs. White Lincoln's way. His opinion was a lie by an interested party, and he was pantsed by the real jurists on the Court in their dissent. Any questions?
Without the People's vote, any motion or vote by the Confederate congress or persons pretending to represent Virginia was null and void, just as if Rhode Island's legislature had voted in 1788 to ratify the Constitution. So to do was ultra vires the legislature, and in fact R.I. didn't ratify for some years thereafter.
So what you're saying is that Bobby Lee was beaten by a slobbering drunk? I guess that if Grant had been sober the whole time then Lee would have been beaten much sooner.
Not to mention the Lost Cause revisionist myth machine.
So when are you going to stop whining and leave already?
Your probably right, Rudolph the Red Nosed General was probably his usual s-faced self that day. He couldn’t even be bothered enough to shave .....
So...the act of the rebel congress admitting Virginia as a state on May 7 was illegal? Not surprising, given the contempt that the rule of law held for the rebel congress and the Davis administration.
I don’t disagree with your opinion about Murtha. As a matter of fact, if Murtha’s actions and words meet the test of treason then the entire democrat party could probably be tried and executed for treason.
However, I never heard of any charges of treason being brought against Murtha, Kerry, Kennedy, Obama, Schumer, H. Clinton or any of the rest damn yankee coven that provided aid and comfort to the enemy.
“Sorry, I’m not aware of any (Southern opposition).”
Very open minded of you. I’m guessing you were raised in the North.
I’m born in New Jersey, raised in Texas. I got both sides. At least in Texas there is an element of shame about their role in the Confederacy.
Kids in the NE were taught to believe that the North so opposed slavery that they sacrificed themselves to end it. Wasn’t quite like that. But it makes people feel good so that’s how they tell it.
The only group that wasn’t politically motivated was the Society of Friends. Nobody else should pat themselves on the back.
“And slaveholders dominated the secession movement and the Confederacy.”
No, they didn’t. That is just your public school indoctrination propaganda showing.
[Non-Sequitur, showing his silver shirt] Yadda, yadda, yadda.
You really have no use for the People, have you, Non-Sequitur?
I've told you before you're a dictionary fascist, and here you prove it by scoffing at the sovereignty of the People.
You're no conservative. You've no use for originalism or the Framers and Founders. Hell, you aren't even an American in your own mind.
Neither did Lee.
I don't have any use for Idabooby. Is he The People?
The first shots against the consent of the nation were lobed at Ft. Sumter.
More like bootless. If you want to talk about something illegal, try Virginia Gov. Letcher's communications with Jefferson Davis about Maryland, before Virginia had voted to secede, and after Maryland's secession convention had rejected secession.
I also thought that Arkansas seceded illegally by vote of the legislature, but someone corrected me by saying that the State of Arkansas did have a plebiscite later -- I didn't find any corroboration for that, but I may have been wrong with my first assertion.
Two of the majority votes, Justice Nelson and Justice Clifford, were not appointed by Lincoln. Two of the dissenting votes, Justice Swayne and Justice Grier, were. Your claim that the case was decided on biased politics and not the law is clearly false.
Chase was sent up there to write Texas vs. White Lincoln's way.
So Lincoln appointed Chase in 1864 because he knew there would be a secession case to be decided 5 years later? Damn.
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