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Abe Lincoln was a dictator??? (Need Help combating loony argument)

Posted on 04/19/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by erod

Hi FRiends,

I have two brothers who I love very much, they’re young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and I’m hoping that one day they’ll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I don’t think makes much sense:

Abe Lincoln was a dictator.

There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.

I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.

Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod


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To: Non-Sequitur

You need to leave this web site, really. Are you mentally stable? If you are calling me a racist we have a problem.


841 posted on 04/23/2010 4:47:09 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
You need to leave this web site, really. Are you mentally stable?

More so than many of your compatriots.

If you are calling me a racist we have a problem.

If I was then I'd just add it to the long list of problems we have. But I'm not calling you anything, that's a Lost Causer tactic. Merely pointing out that this gratitude that you claim the South felt for the service of any blacks that served in confederate ranks manifested itself in some very odd ways. I could not care less what your opinion of anyone is - me, blacks, any group you care to name. I'm not saying you're racist. I'm not saying that you're the poster child for the NAACP. I'm not interested either way. What I am doing is refuting the ridiculous notion that black service was appreciated by their confederate compatriots. Considering how they were treated in the 100 years following the rebellion that much should be self-evident.

842 posted on 04/23/2010 5:05:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I am not in the mood to exchange with a clairvoyant who knows that nobody in the South was grateful for the service of confed. blacks during the War of Northern Aggression. Cleary, my expressing gratititude in no way reflects the feelings of those that lived 140+ yrs ago. I will not claim to know that. All I can do is read letters and look at photos of old men who seem to be decorated at reunions by somebody- who?


843 posted on 04/23/2010 5:23:54 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va; Idabilly; southernsunshine
You need to leave this web site, really.

Let him stay. He/she/it is a constant reminder, and I do mean constant, of the mindset of the left wing ideological hatemongers. He fits the mold so perfectly that I don't know how he manages to avoid the ban hammer.

Besides that, he/she/it is good for an occasional laugh.

Are you mentally stable?

Of course he/she/it isn't mentally stable! His/her/it's obsession and 24/7 posting is all the evidence that one needs to conclude that he/she/it is as batty as the most batty left wing loon.

Now, let's get him/her/it spun up a little:

End the Occupation!
Free Dixie!!

844 posted on 04/23/2010 6:00:34 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: cowboyway
All I know if you show N-S a photo of a Black Rebel he goes into a psychotic rage for some reason. Scary.


845 posted on 04/23/2010 6:14:42 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
if you show N-S a photo of a Black Rebel he goes into a psychotic rage

Well hell! Lets get his blood boiling!

Black Rebels of the CSA


846 posted on 04/23/2010 6:58:24 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: cowboyway

He is probably on his way to the shrink as we post....


847 posted on 04/23/2010 7:01:49 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
He is probably on his way to the shrink as we post....

Hell, that boy is a case study at some institute somewhere.

They have him sitting in a little room with his padded PC in front of him while the pshrinks watch him through a two way mirror. They have two attendents in the room with him: one to control his violent outbursts and the other to wipe the spittle from his screen and periodically change his bib.

I'll bet it's been a long time since nonsense saw the outside of this place:


848 posted on 04/23/2010 7:44:41 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: cowboyway

N-S is probably so lonely, we “Lost Causers” are the only ones who communicate with him regularly, not counting his shrink. Even if the communications are totally contrary, he likes the abuse.


849 posted on 04/23/2010 8:23:39 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
N-S is probably so lonely, we “Lost Causers” are the only ones who communicate with him regularly, not counting his shrink. Even if the communications are totally contrary, he likes the abuse.

The must have put him back in his restraints because he hasn't posted in almost 3.5 hours!!!

850 posted on 04/23/2010 8:28:36 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: cowboyway

It’s those pictures of black confederates, it drives him totally bonkers... He is probably resting in the day room now.


851 posted on 04/23/2010 8:32:25 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: central_va
He is probably resting in the day room now.

Nothing like a nice game of checkers with himself to calm him down.

They'll remedicate him and he'll be back after a little nap.

852 posted on 04/23/2010 8:40:32 AM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe)
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To: Non-Sequitur; BP2; cowboyway; LucyT; manc; Las Vegas Ron

How many times must I tell you, longevity means NOTHING!!! Good trolls have longevity. They get away with things but they are eventually caught. Longevity can be a bad thing. A 10 year old troll may not have been a troll when they joined, or they might have been. A lot can happen in 10 years. Conservatives could have changed and voted for Obongo. Regardless, you spend your days and nights on FR for one reason, to find fights and you are pretty much detested by everyone you post to. That spells troll and the things is, MANY have been here since 1998-99 and they call you troll too.


853 posted on 04/23/2010 10:12:38 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: Non-Sequitur

SO homos are another of your obsessions huh? That’s your newest thing, accusing people of being queer. You are sounding like a liberal more and more each day. Your days here are probably numbered as more and more complain about you.


854 posted on 04/23/2010 10:14:29 AM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: central_va

obviously he has no life and lurks 24/7 looking for attention on these threads.

It’s why I just ignore him, it’;s like giving a naughty kid attention to the kid any attention for them is good attention.


855 posted on 04/23/2010 11:07:16 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: mojitojoe

THIS THREAD IS TILL GOING ON

NAIL ON HEAD
Time is nothing, people change and their views change over time but what I do not get is if someone does not like the south nor southerners then why keep coming on threads where it is about the south


856 posted on 04/23/2010 11:08:34 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: cowboyway

really interesting

would not surprise me at all, I remember seeing this kind of trolling and pone poster talking to themselves using different names on another website


857 posted on 04/23/2010 11:10:09 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: Idabilly

LOL

I see he/she is still on here


858 posted on 04/23/2010 11:11:16 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: central_va

or maybe these kind of ignorant to history and black confederates come to my town and see the graves of black confederates


859 posted on 04/23/2010 11:14:08 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: cowboyway
HERE HERE.

build a wall but on the Potomac

860 posted on 04/23/2010 11:14:46 AM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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