Posted on 04/19/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by erod
Hi FRiends,
I have two brothers who I love very much, they’re young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and I’m hoping that one day they’ll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I don’t think makes much sense:
Abe Lincoln was a dictator.
There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.
I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod
"I'm a good ole Rebel...."
Major Randolf, please pick up the curtosy phone.
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What cha gonna do? Invade with that Greenpeace car of yours?
Uh huh. Like I said, I'm still waiting.
It hasn't got ugly enough, yet.
Really? Because all you do is talk about how its so ugly, you're under occupation, the yankees killed your women and raped your mules, and it's still no ugly enough?
So, if a state has been paying taxes for 200 years, hasn't the bill been paid for the property? I say yes.
Since your state receives far more in federal spending than it sends to the feds (a condition is shares with most southern states), then I'd say no. Of course, if you guys want to forego all the money your citizens have paid in to social security and the like, we could probably work something out. You certainly don't plan on allowing big government giveaways like social security, right?
You don’t need 50. All you need is 38 legislatures to amend the constitution to say “All the above is null and void and all the states are on their own.” Wouldn’t be anything that the president and congress could do about it. Sorry to pop your paranoid fantasy balloon.
At least all the lost cause ones.
Or in your case it's Lost Cause myth that fills your hopes and dreams.
Man, talk about a LLL wet-dream! Do you actually believe all that?!
Tell me, is it hard for you to type with your tongue stuck to the bottom of a federal boot?
Don’t you know every state will be trapped in this Lincolnian Cartoon Republic forever? Union Uber Alles! N-S says shut up, pay your tribute(taxes) and be grateful we aren’t full communist(yet).
Carefull, not sure that hasn’t been photoshopped. Even they are not that stupid, ya think?
LMAO! Okey dokey mudsill, whatever blows your skirt up.
And you'll be there, drooling, trying to get a picture.
ROTFLMRAO!!
I'll forego mine. I figure you yankee politicians have already stolen most of it for you pet socialist projects anyway.........
And you never seem to get out from under it.
Yap! Yap! Yapyapyapyapyap!
lol.....
Yeah, they are.
And they have the backing of the damn yankee coven, including that bunch that posts here.
To the anti-American DUmocrats and those supporting the confederacy he was a dictator. He refused to back down from those in direct violation of the Constitution.
If we’re going to use the analogy of the Revolution (as many of the postings here are attempting to do), the south chose to act the role of King George and England. Not only did they want to stack the deck against the more populous northern states (by counting southern slaves as population without giving them representation) they wanted to violate the Constitution - the 3/5 compromise (Article 1, Section 2, Paragraph 3) to ensure a lock on power in Congress by counting all slaves.
Slave states that formed the confederacy were already in violation of the US Constitution by 1808 (Article 1 Section 9). That date was when importation of slaves was agreed to be ceased, yet they wanted to expand importation of slaves and further increase their power over northern states. So they flagrantly violated the US Constitution and called it “piracy”.
When they could not import more slaves, Copperheads in the north captured free blacks and sent them south into bondage.
Many also wish to quote Lincoln and twist his words to support their anti-American agendas. Here’s an excerpt from his second inauguration address:
“On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil-war. All dreaded it — all sought to avert it. While the inaugeral address was being delivered from this place, devoted altogether to saving the Union without war, insurgent agents were in the city seeking to destroy it without war — seeking to dissole the Union, and divide effects, by negotiation. Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came.
One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern half part of it. These slaves constituted a peculiar and powerful interest. All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war.”
The DUmocrats have aligned themselves with the enemies of America since the Revolution. Since 1860 they have ACTIVELY sought in the defeat of the U.S. Constitution since they cannot govern successfully under it. The JACKASS party were never “honorable” in anything they’ve ever done. They pi$$ed away any honor they may have once held during our founding for lust of power.
Robert Green Ingersoll - Indianapolis Speech (1876)
Delivered to the Veteran Soldiers of the Rebellion.
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/indianapolis_speech76.html
The confederate ranks were formed a full month before Lincoln’s first Inaugural Address on Monday, March 4, 1861 and Lincoln didn’t order troops until three days after the confederate attack on Fort Sumter (April 12th).
Another myth that has been perpetuated by ignorant DUmocrats....”the parties have changed”. They’re still the same as they always have been. The civil war-era JACKASS party that many here defend have the same goals now as they did then.
Democratic Party Platform
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/democratic-party-platform.htm
The TRUTH About Racism and the Democrats
http://www.eeevilconservative.com/archives/2006/10/the_truth_about_racism_and_the.html
The Democrat Party’s Long and Shameful History of Bigotry and Racism
http://gopcapitalist.tripod.com/democratrecord.html
The Racist History of the Democratic Party
http://hnn.us/roundup/entries/3554.html
Stop the Republicans
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/1499184/posts
The True History of the Democratic Racist Party
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523692/posts
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