Posted on 04/19/2010 8:18:35 AM PDT by erod
Hi FRiends,
I have two brothers who I love very much, theyre young and libertarian Ron Paul supporters, sigh. We get along and Im hoping that one day theyll come back to conservatism, but they have bought into a theory that I dont think makes much sense:
Abe Lincoln was a dictator.
There are many websites dedicated to this nonsense you can Google "Abe Lincoln dictator" and get some weird stuff, if you want to check it out.
I need your help in busting this myth are there any books I can read on this subject to dispel this stuff? Do you know any of the arguments to combat this nonsense? Ie. Lincoln did not want to free the slaves.
Thanks for taking time out of your day to help me out, -Erod
It’s safe, don’t worry. We made sure it was passed around.
Or what. You're the one who claims you have local FReepers feeding you information and pictures. I'm just giving you a chance to demonstrate your information gathering skills to your Lost Cause buddies.
I'm gettin' that from my English/Southern, Southern/English dictionary.
Of course you did.
that’s what I mean
this guy has no life what so ever unless you call sitting in front of a computer all day a life.
He’s not just on here but other sites too.
Sad, pathetic and indeed immature.
What is this obsession that you yankees have with perversion and homosexuality?
Must be a liberal thing......
And it goes back many, many years.
It begs the question, "What did this liberal web crawling slime do before the internet?"
Good morning, sunshine. :~)
I think N-S is a shared account by paid leftwing operatives. Probably college students plus a few professors. I notice the N-S replies seem masculine sometimes then feminine other times....
Come on, MJ. Your buddies are puzzled and only you can help them.
And also notice the occasional similarities between the 'ns' account and the shared accounts.
As far as the masculinity, or lack of, goes, I'm going to agree with southernsunshine that 'ns' is a total shelia. She even admits to driving a chic car!
I think that, whoever this 'ns' character is, it has multiple screen names and uses them as alter egos, as if the arrogant 'ns' ego isn't enough.
Not really brokeback...
“She even admits to driving a chic car!”
Its...its....an Obama mobile! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Yoo-Hoo, tonka truck,
I’ll let you in on a little something, the only brokebacks around here don’t drive trucks.
Oh, by the way, have you already forgotten the question I asked you yesterday? Do I need to ask again?
Nonsense.
The Cleyburne proposal represents a distillation of the South's convergent military and political problems circa 1863. His views were made as a highly respected Major General in the Confederate Army of Tennessee, and were cosigned by over a dozen leading officers from various Confederate states. Given the nature of his proposal, and if there was a credible black confederate fighting force in existence to use as an example, Cleyburne would have used it. There was not.
The fact that some grey diapered crap weasels here today might disagree does NOTHING to alter the objective truth present in Cleyburne's writing. To suggest as you have, that Cleyburne's candid assessment of the South's circumstances and condition at that stage of he war was somehow inaccurate or 'clueless' is absurd and a pretty good window into your own (half empty) mindset.
was thinking when he drives it seeing as he’s always on here and other sites reporting back to his far lefty kooks on how he said whatever on a post.
You know when you think of it , how sad is it that he has to get laughs gong on a website which he disagrees on basically everything and then goes away like a little boy saying what he’;s done
bizarre
He advocates disenfranchising “The People” by Court order or military force.. I wonder his take on Arizona? Hell, he's probable out protesting with his/it's friends from ‘code pink’.........
I’m sure he wears pink a lot too.
Let's examine the reasons for this. Richard Franklin Bensel, in his "Yankee Leviathan, The Origins of Central State Authority in America, 1859-1877," says the following:
Only when efforts to harness existing productive potential are not sufficient to meet the challenge presented by the enemy do states attempt to innovate or go beyond the prewar forms of societal production. In terms of material capacity and manpower potential, the Union did not face such a challenge in the Civil War and the war effort became a more-or-less capitalistic, market-oriented response to the requirements of mobilization, well within the potential of northern society and well molded into its forms and structures. By contrast, the Confederate war effort far outstripped the productive capabilities of the prewar economy and compelled a much more innovative, almost futuristic mobilization of resources. As a consequence, the southern mobilization was much more state-centered and coordinated than its northern counterpart.
You mentioned salt. Here was the Southern situation on salt [Link]:
Shortages of salt prevented women from preserving enough meat to last the winter. Until the war most salt had been imported as ballast on ships, but the Union blockade severely restricted this vital commodity. Domestic salt works developed, but the collapse of the Confederate rail networks prevented sufficient distribution to meet everyone's needs. Between May 1861 and October 1862 the price of salt skyrocketed over 1200 percent.
In addition to the critical preservation of food for the population and the army, salt was also crucial to the recovery of soldiers from wounds, the dying of cloth for uniforms, and the tanning of leather. Given salt's importance, the Confederacy exempted workers at salt works from conscription. From the above link:
The government intended that exemptions would protect government employees and people with certain indispensable skills from the draft without the need to purchase a substitute. Soon protected businesses such as salt works, apothecaries, and schoolhouses of dubious quality sprang up all across the South.
The North too recognized the importance of salt to the Southern war effort and launched many attacks on Southern salt works.
You made 80 posts yesterday and I made 50. Yet I'm the one who has no life except for sitting in front of a computer all day?
Sad, pathetic and indeed immature.
Indeed.
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