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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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KEYWORDS: angawa; artbell; awgeez; barackobama; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; coastprovincial; eligilbility; inelegible; kenya; lucassmith; mombasa; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamafamily; tinfoilhat
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To: etraveler13

You are quite welcome, I have been researching Jr since June of 2008 and still know almost as little about him now as I did when I began my research! I did learn more about his family and believe his great aunt Virginia, Stanley Dunham’s youngest step sister may have let the proverbial “cat out of the bag” when she said in a newspaper interview that Stanley Ann was born “near Seattle” but we know that Stanley Ann was actually born in Witchita KS not WA state. That raised my suspicions about a birth near Seattle which would have required a hurried trip to the Vital Statistics Office in HI by Grandma Dunham. A birth in WA state would not require such a trip but a place near Seattle but out of the U.S. would have, so once again I am espousing my own theory of birth in Vancouver B.C. for reasons which I have previously stated.
The article in which Obama’s aunt gave the interview was in a small newspaper from northern Arkansas and the original link was found at http://www.nwaonline.net/articles/2008/11/12/news/11/12/08lrobamaaunt.txt and the article from “The Morning News” under the heading News was “Obama’s Aunt did not Except so much So Soon.....” The link I had bookmarked is now a dead link and I cannot find a cached copy on Google but I will check and see if I copied the original on the long thread and alert you to it if I did so.


681 posted on 03/10/2010 9:20:41 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: Mik Taerg
And you are asking???

Your pal Pansy said he had lunch with him!!!

682 posted on 03/10/2010 9:28:45 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

pansy, who’s liberal rants and annoying 3rd person habit will not be missed.


683 posted on 03/10/2010 9:35:19 PM PST by JerseyDvl (The Obama Doctrine in 6 words - Embolden Enemies, Abandon Allies, WEAKEN AMERICA.)
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To: Mik Taerg; etraveler13
He has to prove it’s authenticity, which is impossible given the enormous flaw about the wrong Chief Administrator.

Tell us WHEN Helton was Chief Administrator???

Otherwise you are lying out of your teeth!!!

684 posted on 03/10/2010 9:38:05 PM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; InspectorSmith
Still awaiting your evidence about Heltan Maganga CA on Feb 19th 2009.

You haven't answered my question yet as to WHEN Helton Maganga was the Chief Adminstrator???

685 posted on 03/10/2010 9:50:09 PM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; theviking711
some sharp folks here share my positions about Lucas.

Name a few, but you can't that either like you are lying about what you got on Orly Taitz!!!

686 posted on 03/10/2010 9:52:53 PM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; etraveler13
How come the document is stamped ans signed Maganga who wasn’t the CA at the time ?

I have asked you before; "What date is on that stamp"???

687 posted on 03/10/2010 10:00:12 PM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; etraveler13
Having myself talked or not to Maganga is not a FLAW, it’s information I’m not going to give you now.

Which translated is that you are lying as you are about Orly Taitz!!!

688 posted on 03/10/2010 10:02:46 PM PST by danamco
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To: Chief Engineer

I have always thought that IF Stanley Anne Dunham went out of the US to give birth, it would have been to British Columbia. It’s only a hop, skip and jump from Mercer Island, and an area the Dunhams were well familiar with.

Few seem to recognize what an unwed pregnancy was in the early 1960s, even to the most liberal of families. I can’t even imagine the effect of a biracial unwed pregnancy in those days.


689 posted on 03/10/2010 10:02:51 PM PST by EDINVA (Sarchasm (n): The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: danamco

You said..Name a few, but you can’t that either like you are lying about what you got on Orly Taitz!!!

I don’t know why you are directing this post at me. I have never claimed to “have anything” on Orly.


690 posted on 03/10/2010 10:16:38 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: EDINVA

Exactly and then you have the extremely racist views in Seattle at that time when blacks were living in only one area of the city commonly known as Center City and segregation was still practiced in the maternity ward and nursery. Mercer Island, itself was 100% white and if any of the students from Mercer Island were in Seattle they crossed the street to avoid contact with any blacks they encountered as relayed by stories from Susan Blake, Maxine Box and John Hunt. Also you have a total lack of any photos of the new mother and baby together, her lack of knowledge of how to change diapers, no photos of the proud grandparents with their firstborn grandchild. Many people point to the birth announcements and say it must have been a long running conspiracy but I maintain it was published to maintain their daughter’s honor and give credence to stories they could tell Jr as he grew up nothing more than that.


691 posted on 03/10/2010 11:20:38 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: etraveler13

I have come with facts. BIG FACTS. Othigo is the prime FACT. And Lucas is not willing to discuss FACTS. And you are supporting his effort to stay clear of FACTS.

He neber went to Kenya: FACT
He shot his videos in Santo Domingo: FACT
Othigo was CA on FEb 19th 2009: FACT
There is only one CA at CPGH: FACT

The file is in courtsystem. LOL. The case id dead, mute, dismissed.
He is playing with you. Wake up


692 posted on 03/11/2010 1:12:55 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: danamco

the date on the stamp is Feb 19th 2009. Upper left hand corner confirmed by Lucas Smith.

http://sites.google.com/site/obamabirth/_/rsrc/1256698767686/Home/obama-short-form-birth-certificate/Obama-BC-Kenya-Lucas-Smith.jpg

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19425773/KEYES-v-OBAMA-55-NOTICE-Declaration-regarding-Kenian-Hospital-Birth-Certificate-of-Barack-Obama

“On February 19, 2009 I visited the Coast General hospital in I visited the hospital accompanied by one more person, a natural Mombasa, Kenya. born citizen ...”

I have ansewered the same question a zillion times, the date has allways been confirmed by Lucas.


693 posted on 03/11/2010 1:19:10 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: danamco

danamco:

YOU OBVIOUSLY DON’T CARE>ABOUT READING MYU EVIDENCE.

“Tell us WHEN Helton was Chief Administrator???

Otherwise you are lying out of your teeth!!!”

On Feb 19th 2009 the CA was Jennifer OThigo. There is documented proof she was in the position at least until April 13th 2009.
The first documented reference to Maganga as CA is from June 2009.

I repeat again, again, again, again: EVIDENCE

here are the references to Jennifer Othigo as CA of CPGH before Feb 19th 2009, the date stamped above Maganga’s signature obove Lucas’ document. This search was done to confirm that naming Othigo was not just an occasional mistake by some journalist.

http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/499590/-/tm7r8p/-/index.html
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=227214&page=3
http://www.unmultimedia.org/radio/english/detail/36898.html
http://www.eastandard.net/news/InsidePage.php?id=1144003096&cid=159&;;;;;;

here are the references that Othigo was still CA until April 13th 2009. This is important due to the date stamped on the certificate. Again not just one article

Feb 24th http://www.vvog.be/docs/2009/02/24094002.doc
Mar 26th http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/InsidePage.php?id=1144009846&cid=159&;;;;;;
Feb 27th http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=247437&p=Nyeri+Town&page=2
Apr 13th http://www.nation.co.ke/InDepth/-/452898/560148/-/tqw6oqz/-/index.html

Lucas has then searched for some source mentioning maganga as CA of CPGH BEFORE FEB 2oth 2009. He was able to find none. In fact, as he well knows the first references to Maganga as CA of CPGH are form June 2009:

Jun 17th http://www.kbc.co.ke/story.asp?ID=58041
Jun 2009 (Kenya TV video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vL2ErPz7Qk

Following this, and not having found any reference to Maganga CA before Feb 19th 2009, Lucas came up with a new theory: both Othigo and Maganga were CA’s on Feb 19th 2009.
Recently however I have found a document, a tender action from CPGH, which CLEARLY implies the CA of that public hospital can only be one. Here is the source, and I suggest you read it.

http://www.ictvillage.com/_Adm.BDetails2.asp?Linkid=1&Infoid=4001&Page=0

*********************

now listen. Read it, think it over, digest it, and then come over again if you have some plausible argument to dismiss my findings.


694 posted on 03/11/2010 1:25:08 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: danamco

And you are asking???

Your pal Pansy said he had lunch with him!!!

seriously who is Pansy ?


695 posted on 03/11/2010 1:26:35 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: theviking711

Do not confuse my doubts about this supposed Kenyan BC with my feelings about Obama. No one wipes his past clean unless he has something to hide. I do not think he is a natural born citizen and has other secrets as well.

Obama is leading this nation to hell in a handbasket and the Dems are his useful idiots. It truly frightens me when I see so many blindly following their chosen one.

I don’t post on these threads much anymore, but that does not mean I am not working in the background . :-)


696 posted on 03/11/2010 6:20:06 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: theviking711
It was NOT addressed to you, but to the chief lying Kim!

I butted into your "conversation" that was not addressed to me!!

It is a courtesy here on F.R. to cc the other part as well, sorry!!!

697 posted on 03/11/2010 7:43:08 AM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; Seizethecarp; WhizCodger; Fred Nerks; theviking711; dgroundhog; little jeremiah; ...

Hello again Great Kim aka Mik Taerg aka Greatkim2009 aka Greatkim2010,

Why can’t you even answer a yes or no question here on this thread? I asked you the same question before several times and some of those times you have said YES and some of those times you have said No. I just need confirmation of what you answer is nowadays.

In any case, let’s back up 5 months or so. Lets return to October 2009. Do you remember your posts on the InspectorSmith forum? www.youtube.com/inspectorsmith

Here is your post from October 2009. Verbatim:

“greatkim2009”

“first pece(sic)of juicy news from my conversation with Helton:

his real name is not Helton but Heltan Maganga. He asked me to verify this on the net and I have done so.

goodle (sic) these exact words:
“heltan maganga” -obama
(-Obama is to make sure we don’t fish articles containing the word Obama and so related to the bc).
He is definitely chief administrator and he is definitely HELTAN. Now do the same googling writing Helton instead of Heltan: you will only fish articles related to the Lucas BC, even though they don’t contin the word Obama.
Big question Lucas: The Dr’s stamp on your BC lists him as Helton, (Unfortunately you have picked the only article that mispelled his name). Isn’t there something wrong here?”

Well Kim? What now? Did you lie about talking with the doctor or did you really talk with him?

Aside from your terrible skills when it comes to conducting Google searches there is a more important problem with your October 2009 comment (and this isn’t the only comment of yours regarding this subject in October).

The more important problem is that nowhere in your posts from October 2009 regarding your telephone call with Helton Maganga is that Doctor Helton never told you anything about NOT BEING CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR ON THE DATE OF FEBRUARY 2009.

If you talked to doctor Helton Maganga in October 2009 (as you claimed you did on youtube and on other FR threads) then why did the doctor not tell you something like, “Hey, listen up Kimster! I wasn’t even the Chief Administrator when Lucas Smith claims to have been here at the Coast Province General Hospital on February 2009. As matter of fact Kimster, the Chief Administrator was a woman named Othigo! Off you go my little Kimster! Spread the great news my little bird!”

So, please, explain to us all here now Kim. If, as you claim nowadays, Helton was not Cheif Administrator on February 2009 then why didn’t he tell you that when you claim to have spoken with him in October 2009?

You Kim (aka Mik) did not start making claims about him not being Chief Adminstrator until late November 2009 or maybe even it was December 2009.

Please explain for us Kim (aka Mik). Tell us please.

By the way everyone, I have a screenshot of Kim’s above refernced comment that was made at youtube.com/inspectorsmith back in October 2009.

Here is the link for the screenshot of greatkims2009 comment regarding her talk with Doctor Helton Maganga:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28118345/GreatKim2009-claims-First-Piece-of-Juicy-News-From-My-Conversation-With-Helton


698 posted on 03/11/2010 7:52:51 AM PST by InspectorSmith
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To: Mik Taerg; InspectorSmith
To the excellent "Tap-Dancer." The key here is that the two stamps are TWO different stamps!

The date stamp is the final stamp when the document was release!!

But there is NO date stamp on the bigger stamp regarding Helton as the Chief Administrator. That stamp is NOT placed there from the same ink pad as the date stamp, and you have NOT answered my previous questions!!!

When and during what time was Helton the C.A. Have you yourself ever been in Africa and dealt with authority documents there, or you only do that from your armchair "keyboard"???

699 posted on 03/11/2010 7:57:52 AM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg

I am. And I did.

parsy


700 posted on 03/11/2010 8:01:31 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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