Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith
Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.
Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.
One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.
A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.
At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.
The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.
The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.
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Lucas;
Create a notepad file your P.C. where you can call it up from your desktop with commonly repeated questions and your answers. That is what Mikey must do, then he cut and pastes at will in any thread. Your notepad is a freebie on any IBM computer, and is very handy for recalling and cut and pasting oft repeated questions and answers. Also it is a great place for keeping nuggets of information you find or others find.
Mikey is a thorn, that makes single word replies with no links for his answers, attack the poster, impugn his character, but for God’s sake, don’t answer his question or deal with verifiable facts. Truly the act of a coward IMO.
So, what your stating, is that this is not you:
Mik Taerg (2 posts) Sat Dec-05-09 10:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. Palin and Lucas Smith
Edited on Sat Dec-05-09 10:28 PM by Mik Taerg
I would give Palin a good kick in the privates. The fake birth certificate that Lucas Smith waves around was given to him by Palin and her party.
Blah Blah Blah...who cares?
Put up or shut up....Who can believe anything you say?
Innuendo, backed up with threat. If your such a honest, moral, upstanding guy, and you could do anything, you would.
Or your not what you say you are.
You never answered WHY you seem to have this vendetta against Lucas Smith...What is in this for you??? After all, your twice his age and according to you twice as smart...
Oh brother...
Today on the "Russia Today" TV show, Orly Taitz made good arguments why Obama might not be a natural born citizen.
To get that I looked up Lucas Smith/Criminal on Google....which I suggested that others do also..The link I sourced was the first thing that popped up...and like I said it had pictures and it also had links (to other FR posts)
Are you questioning whether or not Smith has a record? He admits it.
Yes I know who Chuck Colson is ...he is a good example of someone who has turned his life around,
Smith should quit lying and follow Colsons path before he ends up back in jail
Is it possible that Obama has lied andSmith has lied?
or is that impossible?
You sound like you might have rabies ...have you been tested?
I am much more concerned with Obama’s lying than with Lucas’.
We also know more about Lucas’ past than Zero’s so he wins the transparency award. Advantage Lucas.
Im not crazy about lie detectors as they are fallible ...but Im happy if Smith will do it.
If he will do that why wont he answer my simple questions?
I’ll agree with you somewhat ...but if Smith is lying about this and the doc is fake then it makes birthers look like idiots
***Interview with Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.’s Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Obama during a taped interview at her home in Kenya was adamant “Barack, Jr. was born in Mombosa, Kenya and I was present during his birth.”****
This interview was conducted by Rev. McRae. In a first moment the tape has been distributed omitting the final part where Sarah cleary and repeatedly affirms Obama was born in Hawaii. Some search on the net will allow you to find both versions.
Obama, and his Obots have been erasing documents and people that can prove he is not what he says he is IMO
As an aside, His education was financed to Harvard by Mboyo in Nairobi (Barak Sr), and he came back and worked for Mboyo prior to Mboyo’s murder, and an assination attempt was made on his life. SAD was never mentioned in any article surrounding any of these activities. It is known that SAD was with Sarah Obama without Obama Sr being around, and that Sarah called her a daughter, so its also consistent that she would be welcome in the delivery room in Mombasa.
Palin embraced parts of socialism today...spotbird...Dec-05-09...09:30 PM...#0
If it walks like a duck....
Because treason is a crime, not a civil cause of action. No private party has the legal ability to start a treason (or any other criminal) prosecution.
So? Why is that relevant to the questino of whether Bambi was born in Hawaii?
If you inquired about Sun Yat Sen’s Hawaiian birth status the original vital records would also show a Hawaiian birth.
I doubt it. Sun Yat Sen used fraud to obtain a Certificate of Hawaiian birth over almost 50 years before Obama was born, but that doesn't mean he's still listed as being Hawaiian born in the state's database.
Nevertheless, once you are in a state's database as being born in the state, courts will presume that to be accurate, unless someone can prove otherwise.
What if somebody accused you of forgery? Wouldn’t you then have the right to access any documentation necessary to defend yourself?
Maybe we should be working with Ender Wiggins and his sidekick to get them to report you to law enforcement. Or maybe we could report you to law enforcement for forgery and perjury (the very things Obama is guilty of) so you could defend yourself.
Of course, it wouldn’t be very comfortable for you. I suggested to my husband that we should not pay our taxes so that we would get charged with tax evasion and could defend ourselves by proving that there is no tax law signed by a valid president. It would mean the end of my husband’s career though and he was not too keen on it. So I can well imagine you wouldn’t be keen on it either. Especially as Obama’s minions get more time to manufacture documents. By signing the affidavit you practically dared Obama to charge you with perjury, though. He won’t. He never will, because that would lead to discovery. But maybe somebody else could. Maybe we could find a law enforcement person who would be willing to bring this all to a head.
Again, I’m just thinking out loud. I honestly think that at this point the criminal justice system is the only place that can be forced to say a person has “standing” - but only if somebody is actually accused of something.
I don’t know. Any thoughts?”
Some free legal advice—don't ever, ever, ever do anything like this. It's based on a complete misunderstanding of what standing and discovery are. Once you are charged with a crime, you must answer for your actions, and courts do not go on fishing expeditions for you.
If I refused to pay my taxes because there is no existing tax law with a valid president’s signature on it, would I be allowed access to the documents which prove my case?
Somebody just made a comment on my blog noting the legal definition of “verify”. It basically means supported by a sworn statement. Most amendments to a BC have to be made with a sworn statement so anything Obama would have would “verify” - but that still wouldn’t mean it was prima facie evidence.
And using that definition, the Kenyan BC has also been “verified” since Lucas Smith filed a sworn statement about how he received that BC.
Two can play at this game.
BTW, did you see how the Vital Records head guy told Fukino to tell a requestor that the records she requested are confidential (even though they are actually required to be made public) after looking on the internet and seeing that she was anti-Obama?
Whaddya think of that? It’s at The Post & Email. Pretty upstanding, law-abiding government officials, eh?
No, you wouldn’t. And lots of existing tax law is based on the signature of previous Presidents anyway.
Ha! My research skills aren’t good!?
Then why is it you don’t seem to know the following.
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HI Attorney General’s Office refuses to corroborate Obama’s HI Birth
WON’T DEFEND FUKINO’S STATEMENT THAT HE IS “NATURAL-BORN AMERICAN CITIZEN”, by John Charlton
Mark J. Bennett, HI Attorney General (Feb. 2, 2010) — While political momentum is building within the Democratic Party from coast to coast to make the issue of Obama’s claims to be born in Hawaii a litmus test for its political opponents in the 2010 general elections for Congress, a key component in such a strategy has been undermined by the Hawaii Attorney General’s Office.
In correspondence with The Post & Email, Jill T. Nagamine, Deputy Attorney General for the State of Hawaii, has made it clear that her office will not corroborate or back in any way the July 27, 2009 Statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, which declared Obama Hawaiian-born and a “natural-born American citizen.”
The stunning admission was made in an email sent to the Editor of this paper yesterday evening.
The implications of this denial are catastrophic for the Democratic strategy.
The Hawaii Attorney General’s office has the duty to prosecute the laws of the State. Mark J. Bennett, the current Attorney General, was appointed to the office by Governor Lingle on Jan. 3, 2003. He is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney General for Honolulu, and a graduate of Cornell’s Law School. Bennett is the first Republican to hold the office in 40 years.
According to published reports, Dr. Fukino has admitted that her July 27th statement received the verbal approval of the HI Attorney General, who “o.k.’d it.”
In an attempt to corroborate the contents of Dr. Fukino’s statement and understand better the value of that testimony, I put the following two questions to Nagamine, as a member of the press.
I am seeking some information in response to 2 questions I have. Please understand that your response(s) or non-response will be quoted by our paper.
Q. 1: Does the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health have any statutory duty or authority to define the citizenship status of anyone whose vital record(s) are kept by that department?
Q.2: According to the legal references employed by your office, what is the defition of a “natural-born citizen” of the United States of America?
I put my question to the Deputy Attorney General to avoid putting the Attorney General in a situation of a conflict of interest, if he in fact, did, as Dr. Fukino claims, advise her regarding her July statement.
Nagamine, in response, asserted that any answer to such questions given by her office would represent a conflict of interest for her office. And that is an explicit admission that Dr. Fukino had no statutory authority nor duty to make such a statement, and that the Attorney General’s office will not stand behind Fukino’s claim that Obama is a “natural-born American citizen.” It is such, because if Fukino’s declaration had legal weight of any kind, surely a response to my questions would have corroborated that without such a conflict-of-interest scenario. You only have a conflict if the Fukino claim would not be supported by a Nagamine response.
In December, the Department of Health for the State of Hawaii issued its own dossier of excuses as to why they are also refusing to confirm, by documentation, the July Statement to Dr. Fukino.
Ironically, and quite oblivious to these developments, the Democratic Party in Tennessee issued a missive berating that state’s Republican Lt. Governor, Ron Ramsey, who yesterday publicly denied that he was certain of Obama’s birth-story claims:
Tennessee Lt. Gov. Ron Ramsey today questioned the president’s citizenship, offering further proof that the Republican leadership in the General Assembly is out of touch with real Tennesseans.
“I don’t know whether President Obama is a citizen of the United States or not,” Ramsey reportedly told the Nashville Republican’s First Tuesday Club after it was suggested that no one running for president be put on a Tennessee ballot unless proof of natural born citizenship is provided.
Mr. Ramsey would rather pander to a far-right wing group of conspiracy theorists than govern in a pragmatic approach that most Tennesseans expect from their political leaders.
Quite irrationally, the Democratic Party is now asserting an undocumented claim as political “truth” and doubt concerning the veracity of such an unsupported claim as a “conspiracy theory,” which indeed is more evidence of the Party’s withdrawal from a Main Street notion of reality.
The Post & Email recently published a report explaining why the electronic image promoted by the Obama campaign of a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth is in fact a crude forgery and has been recognized as such for nearly two years.
In October, the Hawaii Attorney General’s office also refused to take a public stand on what the term “natural born citizen” means, raising further doubt about the value of any counsel offered by the Attorney General to the Fukino statement.
The Post & Email notes, furthermore, that the term “natural-born” is more commonly the medical term for a natural birth; whereas “natural born” is the constitutional term meaning born on U.S. Soil of two U.S. citizen parents.
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Fukino has already been warned that she could face prosecution, if not a lawsuit, for breaking the laws of Hawaii concerning her behavior in DOH.
The people of Hawaii pay her salary and have a RIGHT to public information UIPA states they have a RIGHT to access. So far Fukino has stonewalled because it is information about Obama or his relatives.
I want to reiterate here that I don’t know where Obama was born. But circumstantial evidence keeps piling up that it may be somewhere other than Hawaii.
If Obama was born in Hawaii and his mother wasn’t married then he is an illegitimate child but, without a doubt, a natural born citizen. No one would freak over that fact though there would be a lot of heartbreak at some online sites.
As for me, I can’t believe he would be going through all this - Kerchner vs. Obama is now in the Federal Third District Court - unless he is using the situation as a diversion away from whatever is the truth. My guess would be the truth is a foreign birth but hey! I don’t know where he was born.
So if I was accused of tax evasion I would not be allowed to get access to documents which would prove my innocence? Someone else’s “privacy” legally trumps my innocence?
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