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President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s
allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

Posted on 03/05/2010 7:56:12 PM PST by InspectorSmith

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

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To: lucysmom

Sun Yat-sen! The one I saw said Chiang Kai-shek.

Sounds like everyone’s relatives were getting into the act. I wonder who let Grandma Toots in on the secret.


441 posted on 03/07/2010 8:34:32 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Peter Libra

Besides the items I have already listed There is the matter of a five day trip from Kenya to New York which is an awful long trip for a mother with a new born. It is simply inconceivable that SAD wouldn’t have learned how to change diapers during such a long trip and it doesn’t fit in with the timeline of when Jr was born and when his birth was recorded in HI. Also please note the complete absence of any photos of the newborn with his proud mother or proud grandparents with their firstborn grandchild. There are none! The first picture released of a baby is of a 6 to 8 month old in a professional photo and he appears on his own in that photo. That photo was not released by the campaign until AFTER the death of Madelyn. Too much doesn’t fit of SAD being in HI to give birth and the time element doesn’t fit for her to have given birth in Kenya then rushed back to HI then quickly returned to the mainland to register at the University of Washington in correspondence courses for the first semester and find her apartment on Capitol Hill to live in.
Yes I am in B.C. at the moment waiting to find out when I will receive yet another operation after having an accident while I was here. According to the orthopedic surgeons I so badly damaged the arm I had surgery on in Idaho that I now need a new shoulder and with the socialized medicine here I have been given a date of three years to wait for the shoulder replacement. It will give me plenty of time to continue my research on Jr and re-read the long thread many times over.


442 posted on 03/07/2010 8:42:26 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: SatinDoll
They, meaning Hawaii’s DOH, verified he has vital records; they never said that the ‘vital record’ recorded a birth in Hawaii.

Yes they did. Look it up.

443 posted on 03/07/2010 8:48:35 PM PST by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I did.


444 posted on 03/07/2010 8:52:37 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: InspectorSmith
My earlier post here was supposed to read “brilliant FIND” and not “MIND”. It was a typo. I don’t anyone to think that I have an ego like that or that I would ever say any something like that. Whew. For a while there I thought maybe you were temporarily suffering from 'TheGreatKim Complex'.
445 posted on 03/07/2010 9:21:06 PM PST by dgroundhog
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To: curiosity

No, the DOH never verified anything but the fact they had a record that “was within the guidelines of Hawaiian law at the time it was filed.” Look into Hawaiian laws for registering births in 1961 & you will see that Okubo didn’t say anything of value. Google “clearing the smoke on obamas eligibility” & you will see how anyone could get a COLB from Hawaii at that time. No birth had to be proven, just a statement given by any “interested party.” That’s why it is so important for the info on the long form bc be shown. Grandma Dunham could have registered his birth with mother & child being in another country.


446 posted on 03/07/2010 10:15:35 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: Natural Born 54

The “Kenyan bc” referred to in your link is a phoney. That was the 1st one Orly had. Orly had 2 different ones. Lucas’ document is the other one, the authentic one.


447 posted on 03/07/2010 10:20:48 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: All

Kim aka mik taerg is incapable of answering any questions in a straight forward manner. He lies, has posted forgeries he himself created, uses dubious sources for info,gets fixated on 1 thing & is incapable of understanding anything except what he has set in mind limited mind. We had this problem with him on Utube & now here. He just wants to throw “stuff” in the air and see how it lands. Pay him no heed.

The only good thing I can say about him is at least he loved his dog, probably the only real friend he ever had.


448 posted on 03/07/2010 10:31:29 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: All

Questions have been asked why the media is not reporting on this. The Canadian Free Press & the Northeast iIntelligencer have obtained affidavits from several news anchors,& station managers swearting they had been threqtened with career destruction & physical harm, not only to them but to their families if they mentioned the birth issue.They are afraid.I don’t know who the inividuals are, but I do know FOX News was one of the targets.


449 posted on 03/07/2010 10:36:54 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: All

If you really want to know the truth about the issue, research it in depth. I can see from your posts that some of you have. If you don’t know where to start, go to Lucas Utube channel & read the comments. There we have discussed every angle & give iur sources.
Or, ask the question of yourself. Why doesn’t bama just show his records? McCain did when he was questioned.


450 posted on 03/07/2010 10:42:23 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: All

Most os us fantasize, at one time or another, about doing something great, being a hero. No matter what area you wanted to do it in, law enforcement, battle, science, medical, whatever. Most of us have dreamed it. Lucas did it. He did go to Africa, obtained the birth certificate, returned to the U S with it. If you don’t know about Africa, I can tell you his life was in danger most of the way. He didn’t fly into the capitol & take a comfy ride to Mombassa. He took another route. (Jerome Corsi flew in with a film crew , was stopped at the airport, was jailed for a short period, then ordered out of Kenya)Lucas went covertly and accomplished his goal.


451 posted on 03/07/2010 10:52:08 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: All

Lucas’ only reward has been ridicule & attacks from non-believers or troublemakers. Every minute of his life has been poked & prodded, x-rayed & examined. He has stood firm & unshaken in his action. He has given sworn affidavits that have been entered into court as evidence. He is prepared to testify.Because of the explosive nature of the document, his life is still in danger to this day. Regardless of what went before or what will come after, Lucas is a true American Patriot and a very brave man.


452 posted on 03/07/2010 10:59:41 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: Chief Engineer

I agree with most of what you said, but I can’t be certain that he didn’t go back to Kenya. Vancouver is still my choice. Who did SAD tell that Sr. wasn’t there for the birth? That is the first I have heard of that. I don’t think Sr. is the father, or at least I think the odds are just as good that he isn’t.


453 posted on 03/07/2010 11:01:16 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: woofie

Are you aware that Lucas Smith has agreed to take a lie detector test?


454 posted on 03/07/2010 11:03:53 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

Grandma Sara swore she witnessed his birth in Mombassa. The kenyan Ambassador said they are planning a monument at the birthplace in Mombassa, that it is already a tourist site.


455 posted on 03/07/2010 11:07:07 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: mojitojoe

I would add that many names have been suggested as possible “fathers” but the only one of importance is the one on the birth certificate. All the bc’s, the pfonies & the real one, list BHO,Sr. Since he was married to the mother at the time of birth, that is the only person the law will consider.


456 posted on 03/07/2010 11:09:58 PM PST by theviking711 (theviking711)
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To: etraveler13; InspectorSmith

Exactly! I told him silence is golden and not to say sh*t on the forum. He tells people that he trusts a few things. He should keep his mouth shut. He is under no obligation to spill the beans on anything here and he shouldn’t. In the end, it will either be true of false, but the worst thing that could happen is that it is all true, it is legitimate and because he said too much, the criminal thugs in the WH manage to cut him off at the pass.... and he would be an idiot to answer questions asked by someone that he doesn’t trust.


457 posted on 03/07/2010 11:17:49 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Drew68; InspectorSmith

Got some proof you ever set foot in Africa, Lucas? A photo? Passport stamp? Anything at all? Didn’t think so
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If he does, he sure as hell isn’t letting you in on it. He has been given a list of the BC trolls and advised to not say anything about what he has in his possession or that his attorneys have in their possession and to not disclose the name of the law firm representing him.


458 posted on 03/07/2010 11:27:24 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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To: etraveler13

***Interview with Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.’s Kenyan grandmother, Sarah Obama during a taped interview at her home in Kenya was adamant “Barack, Jr. was born in Mombosa, Kenya and I was present during his birth.”****

This interview was conducted by Rev. McRae. In a first moment the tape has been distributed omitting the final part where Sarah cleary and repeatedly affirms Obama was born in Hawaii. Some search on the net will allow you to find both versions.

***The Kenyan Government, claim they have the birthing records of Barack H. Obama, Jr. and the birth delivery records of Ann Obama, from Barack H. Obama, Jr.’s birth in Mombosa, Kenya, however, they have sealed the birth records of Barack H. Obama, et al, birth in Mombosa, Kenya and labled them top secret as a result of the presidential election.***

this ios absolutely false

***Affidavit of Reverend Kweli Shuhubia, “Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya”****

This is the same case of McRae. Shuhubia acted as translator
and in the full version of the interview he traslated “no,no, no.... he was born in Hawaii”

***“Kenyan Officials with the Provincial Civil Registrar stated there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa , Kenya on August 4, 1961 and confirmed the birthing records of Barack H. Obama, Jr. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barack H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret.”****

false

****It was posted and published many times that Obama Sr was not present at his sons birth, so the argument that he was in Nairobi, and not Mombasa is not germaine to where Obama Jr was born.****

It’s not germaine to what you say but it is a fact

***Wayne Madsen, Journalist with Online Journal as a contributing writer and published an article on June 9, 2008, stating that a research team went to Mombasa, Kenya, and located a Certificate Registering the birth of Barack Obama, Jr. at a Kenya Maternity Hospital, to his father, a Kenyan citizen and his mother, a U.S. citizen.****

This is a very interesting situation. In fact Madsen says the GOP sent a research team to “fabricate” evidence. He accuses the team of wanting anything with the name Obama on it. There are other Obamas in Kenya. He accuses them of plotting an October surprise with fabricated evidence.
Madsen’s story was long believed to be a lie until I got information from Kenyan sources that the GOP team met with Kenyan officials at the Windsor Golf resort in Nairobi. The amazing rumour is that Pastor Muthee (Palin’s whichcraft Kenyan minister) attended the meetings. I have posted this only because you have asked, it is material I am still working on. This story is related to Corsi’s arrest in Kenya.


459 posted on 03/07/2010 11:27:48 PM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: etraveler13

That would explain why so many African and other newspapers stated he was born in Kenyan when he was elected to the senate in IL.


460 posted on 03/07/2010 11:28:21 PM PST by mojitojoe (“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism.” - Vladimir Lenin)
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