DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.

[DJ MacWoW]

There were 2 Viking Kitties.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I posted last week that Wiggy was a troll. I can smell em!

[KenyanBCPunkster]

"Sacramento is the capital of Connecticut." "You mean California."

The answer to that would be "yes".

The "Yes" wouldn't be an answer to a question, but an agreement with the statement that began with "You mean..."

So where'd you get the base document you used?

From the Bomford family website after a lengthy image search for birth certificates.

Unfortunately it's no longer available on the Bomford website. After the news broke about it, their server was overloaded and it was removed.

I left some fields out that were in the original in order to make it better fit the aspect ratio of an 8-1/2 x 11 inch sheet of paper. I also used some of the same information for debunking purposes. Such as the "5733," and the book and page numbers at the bottom. I kept the names of the registrar and district registrar, changing only their first initials. I made up the entire name of the deputy registrar to make it a Kenyan name.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Ender said he found that image online. Punkster said it’s from his tif. See posts 2680 and 2681

Yes, Ender did tell a fib when he said he found it online. However he only said that because at the time, he didn't have my permission to say he had got it from me.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Did we scare them off?

Maybe they're regrouping to get their stories straight.

No. My posts are still being moderated so there can be a bit of a delay from the time I write them until they're posted here.

[Las Vegas Ron]

There were 2 Viking Kitties.Who got it?

[DJ MacWoW]

Thank you for the response. May I ask whatever possessed you to do it?

[Las Vegas Ron]

No. My posts are still being moderated so there can be a bit of a delay from the time I write them until they're posted here.

Yet this one came through fine.....where have you been whilst you weree getting ripped a new one?

[DJ MacWoW]

Ender isn’t well liked. He’s very arrogant and abrasive.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Have you been contacted by the FBI for creating a fraudulent document designed to resemble an Official Government document?

No. Nor does the document resemble any official US government document.

Did you send a copy of this fraudulent document to Orly Taitz in the hope of ruining her case and discrediting her efforts?

It wasn't sent to Orly Taitz. It was sent to Neal Sankey. And it wasn't sent to Sankey with any claim that the document in the photograph was genuine. In fact, it was specifically stated that it wasn't known if it was genuine or not. Sankey said he would have it analyzed but within days of his receiving it, it was filed in court by Orly Taitz.

How is it possible for you to post two different post at exactly the same time to the exact second to two entirely different people?

Because my posts here are under moderation. They don't get posted until a moderator allows them to be posted. Since I can write several posts before the moderator allows them to be posted, then it's possible for there to be several posts from me posted at the exact same time. The posting time isn't the time I actually write the post, it's the time that the moderator releases my posts.

Have you been promised any money for your efforts or to post here?

No.

Are you a Muslim?

No.

Did you vote for Obama?

No.

What was the source of the original document you used to make the Hoax Document?

A copy of a birth certificate for David Jeffrey Bomford, which I found on the Bomford family website.

[DJ MacWoW]

Who got it?

No one. They are watching. And waiting. Like all good hunting cats.

[butterdezillion]

Who originated the fake COLB then?

[Las Vegas Ron]

Yes, Ender did tell a fib when he said he found it online.No, not a fib, he LIED and you just outed your comrade.

[butterdezillion]

Stop BS-ing. The dates and times were right there for anybody to see. Just cut it out. We’re not stupid.

[Las Vegas Ron]

No one. They are watching. And waiting. Like all good hunting cats

Good, I thought I missed it ;)

[butterdezillion]

And his word has already been shown to be worth doo-doo.

Actually not even worth doo-doo. Doo-doo can go on my garden and produce something worthwhile. lol.

[DJ MacWoW]

You didn’t.

[usmcobra]

Do you realize that forging a government document is a crime even if it is not a US government document?

You used a real document in the process doesn’t that mean you did not want it to be exposed as a forgery immediately?

Why Neal Sankey?

Do you have some sort of grievance against him?

Who else did you shop this forgery to?

Why did you pose a question to him that you didn’t know if it was genuine or not when according to you, you created it?

Isn’t that an attempt to defraud someone with a bogus document?

Do you have a copy of the Original document you created your phony one from?

[DJ MacWoW]

At least the punkster is not being arrogant and abrasive. I’ve had my fill of that today!

[butterdezillion]

If it’s straight from the bull it can be very, very squishy. I’ve chased enough cattle in my day to know that. lol.

Splat! That’s the sound of stuff coming from Ender’s mouth. lol