DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible

Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.

[Darksheare]

Lame, really truly lame.
And an invalid example as well by the way.

[DJ MacWoW]

"Sacramento is the capital of Connecticut."
"You mean California."

The answer to that would be "yes".

So where'd you get the base document you used?

[Red Steel]

Yes.
And fifty foot neon signs, as well as the entrails of chickens to divine the meaning of the sentence apparently.

Oh, here you go Wiggout. Append this to the end of my obvious question.

?

I'll be back later.

[EnderWiggins]

" That's because you are not trusted, no one here is going to download a tiff from you."

That's hardly my problem. The evidence is there if you want it. If you are not competent to protect your PC from malware, that also is a reflection entirely on you.

"Post an optimized high quality jpg or go away, it's as simple as that."

You said you already got it. That was posted several pages ago.

But again, the jpeg (which in case you didn't know, can also run malware does not prove what the Tif proves... i.e.e that the Punkster here has released the single highest quality image of that photo ever seen on line.

Hence... only he can be the originator.

[Las Vegas Ron]

"What I mean is, are you referring to the document with E.F. Lavender on it?" instead of going on and on about not having answered a question that was never clearly asked.

Wow, you forge documents and you took an hour to finally figure that question out?

Show us a .jpg, punky.

[Darksheare]

Ender doesn’t kow what to do with that punctuation mark, he needs his chicken entrails to divine the intent.
*rolling the bones*
We’ll see you on teh flipside RS, as tehy say.
Hopefully the mods sort out how many IP’s Echo and Echo are talking from.

[Fred Nerks]

I’ve lost interest, bye bye.

[EnderWiggins]

The TIF proves that “debunking” to have been completely false.

Like I said (and this proves again) Birther lies never die.

[Darksheare]

You’ve proven nothing.
You’ve merely claimed not to understand a question when posed one, and refused to answer questions when they are repeated.
And the only one lying... is you.

[EnderWiggins]

If I’ve proven nothing it’s only because you are afraid to download a file. That’s your fault, not mine.

[Las Vegas Ron]

That's hardly my problem.

It is your problem, you already have zer0 credibility here and you're now sliding into the negative 10 area....kind of like the man you live to defend.

I use Nod 32, I have great confidence in it but nothing is 100%

Put up or shut up.

[DJ MacWoW]

No one is dumb enough to trust you or him.

[EnderWiggins]

This was posted pages ago... here you go again:

[Las Vegas Ron]

That's been around for a long time, so what's your point?

Where is the one that has never been seen by the public?

[Darksheare]

A file format that is open to exploiting and has numerous warnings attached to it.
A file format that is famous for being used as an exploit entry.
A file format that is inefficient in small file form, but great when used as a humongous multi hundred megabyte file.

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Ender has already been shown to be a liar. The whole “Punk’d” story was fake. The supposed Australian BC it was copied from was created AFTER the Kenyan BC was already posted.

This is the one thing that has caused me to regret having done this. That there are some out there who are so completely unhinged from reality that they actually believe that David Bomford's birth certificate, that had been sitting on the Bomford family website for years before all of this, is the "fake."

[KenyanBCPunkster]

I took the photograph.

And you don't have PS to optimize the file so it can be posted?

Yes, I do. But there are already plenty of JPG versions out there. You seem to completely miss the whole point of making the original TIF image file available. And that was that the original TIF image file has never been made available to the public until now.

And the reason it's available now is because I'm the one who created the document and took the photograph.

[EnderWiggins]

Exactly... that’s why the TIF image is the important one. It is the original source of every JPEG on-line to include Orly’s. And it proves that Punkster is the originator.

The TIF image is the one that has never been released before.

For cripes sake, you guys are slow. How you ever managed to debunk the Killian memos is a wonder.

[Darksheare]

Now is that yours, or Punkster’s?
And if it’s Punkster’s, how can it be the one he sent you that you claim isn’t on your machine yet somehow got via email?

[KenyanBCPunkster]

Post the .jpg first, if it requires further scrutiny we'll let you know.

You can save it as a high quality .jpg but I suppose you knew already that?

Ender had already posted the JPG he'd made from the TIF image I had sent him. The posting of the TIF image came after that.