Posted on 12/05/2009 3:41:40 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
I'm all for Ralph Nader running again. I'd love for Howard Dean to get fed up or some other Democrat to get fed up with Obama and I'd love for a third party of Democrats and liberals to establish itself. I want all kinds of liberals to line and up run in third parties. That's how we weaken their side. As for our side, the focus must be to take back the Republican Party. That's the way you win. You can draw attention to yourself by denouncing both parties at the same time, and you can think that you're relating to a whole lot of people or being disabused and forgotten about, but you do a grave disservice in doing so because you're never going to win anything. You're going to guarantee Democrat victory in perpetuity. We need a strong conservative movement that takes back the Republican Party and then we have a strong Republican Party. It's hard work but it is happening.
**I won’t support any more leftists.**
Leftists unfortunately carry (R) as well as (D).. and both are as Dangerous...
Thus my recurring NIGHTMARE of GOP nominating Olympia Snowe!!
RUSH: While I have your attention: third party. This third-party stuff has got to stop, folks, unless you are for a third party for the Democrats. I'm all for Ralph Nader running again. I'd love for Howard Dean to get fed up or some other Democrat to get fed up with Obama and I'd love for a third party of Democrats and liberals to establish itself. I want all kinds of liberals to line and up run in third parties. That's how we weaken their side.
“...the loonie left is split between three other parties, allowing the grownups to win with just 38% of the vote.”
And that’s what Rush is encouraging, a third party on the LEFT. I think the headline of this post is misleading.
It is also different in our system, whereas Canada has a parlimentary system that gives power to parties as parties. In our system most third parties will at best win a race here or there, I suppose even the presidency under the right conditions, but they will not gain enough seats at a national level to have real power in congress.
A third party within the republican party, yes.
A third party outside of the republican party...no.
If you use your group as a way to select certain Republican candidates and support them rather than running your own candidates, fine and dandy but if you think it's smart to run anyone as a "third party" then you don't give a darn about your country. You're only trying to milk your "third party" for all you can get.
This harebrained idea of running a "third party" candidate in a House distrcit in idea is well....harebrained and I hope he loses. The consequences are too great but maybe you don't care if the unions gain more control here in Iowa because that is what is at stake.
I hope the posters here on FR realize that you do not care one twit about your country. You only care about your own hide with your fake, phony “third party”.
I’m for conservatives taking back the GOP. I would hate to give up the Party of Lincoln and Reagan.
You have just laid out the road map to changing the Republican party. It MUST be done from the bottom up--just the way you describe. If we run willy nilly all over the place we will be fractured and allow RATS to remain in control.
And don't tell me to go through the primary process. Thanks to McCain-Feingold, the primaries are nothing more than incumbent conveyor belts.
The time to at least threaten The Republican Party with a third party challenge is now, not during the election season.
Besides, it's not my job to fall in line with The Republican Party.
It's The Republican Party's job to find candidates I would vote for.
This is not ideal--but it is realistic.
Are mistakes made? Probably because we're all human but to claim there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats and to insinuate that the Republican party apparatus will always back a RINO over a conservative is just plain lying.
You need to go get a life. What you're doing now is destructive to both you and your country.
I will take Reagan’s advice over yours any day.
LOL!
As for our side, the focus must be to take back the Republican Party. That's the way you win....We need a strong conservative movement that takes back the Republican Party and then we have a strong Republican Party. It's hard work but it is happening.More from the link!
And I know the Republican Party has let a lot of people down by not advocating conservatism or implementing it as they campaigned on.I grabbed some names from This Thread, I think it will be of interest to those of you that I added in the "to" box....there are clear differences between liberals and even moderates Republicans. RINO Republicans are a different thing altogether. The problem politically here is the war within the Republican Party over who is going to dominate it and lead it.
There is a conservative ascendancy here. Why in the world waste what is happening here with this new conservative ascendance and weaken it and split it up by forming a third party? So far, not a single Republican is going to vote for government-run health care.
Now, I'm the first to tell you, and I'm the first to agree that the Republican Party has screwed up and it needs to continue to find its legs, and with our help, it will have no choice but to become a traditional conservative party.
The Republican Party right now has lost its way. This conservative ascendancy can help it find its way.
...we are not populists, we're constitutionalists, we are conservatives. And when a majority of us are in control of the Republican Party, the Republican Party wins.
You say you're a Reagan conservative, EV. So study up.
By Grabthar's hammer, what a spanking.
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