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Judge questions Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth certificate in hearing ...
Ledger Enquirer ^ | Sept. 14, 2009 | CHUCK WILLIAMS

Posted on 09/14/2009 1:33:00 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen

During a hearing in U.S. District Court Monday, an attorney for an Army officer fighting deployment to Iraq questioned Barack Obama’s legal right to serve as president, asserting he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

Judge Clay Land, inquisitive throughout the 90-minute hearing, said he will issue a decision on Capt. Connie Rhodes’ request for a temporary restraining order by noon Wednesday.

Rhodes was represented by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and a national figure in the “birther” movement that claims Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.

California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.

Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.

“There was a lack of any reference to Capt. Rhodes,” Ausprung said. “This case is about Capt. Rhodes and her deployment.”

Taitz kept going back to Obama’s birth certificate. Twice she called Obama a “usurper.”

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To: Red Steel
You can admit it that you’re an Obot defending socialism.

Why would I want to lie?

61 posted on 09/14/2009 2:29:32 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Red Steel; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
The case is to determine if Obama can legitimately hold presidential office under the US Constitution Natural Born Citizen clause. If Obama is not a legitimate US President, than he cannot be the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces, and therefore cannot lawfully give orders for the military to follow.

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62 posted on 09/14/2009 2:30:13 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Labyrinthos
You seem to agree then, that the deployment order didn't come from 0bama and therefore, his qualifications are irrelevant in ths particular situation.

I do, but in the end what you and I believe is irrelevant. It's what the judge believes, and he doesn't seem impressed with Orly's arguments.

63 posted on 09/14/2009 2:31:10 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: LucyT

Thanks for the ping, Lucy.


64 posted on 09/14/2009 2:31:34 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG (A society that doesn't protect its children doesn't deserve to survive.)
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To: mnehring

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65 posted on 09/14/2009 2:33:28 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: normanpubbie

My big problem with this whole thing, and the judge’s statements in particular is that for every job, license, identification, security check, or proof of eligibility for various professional capacities we have in our country, the only one that seems to have shifted burden of proof on the investigators and not the investigated is the office of President as it pertains specifically to one Barack Hussein Obama. They changed the rules just for him.


66 posted on 09/14/2009 2:34:42 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: jarofants
Then will she have standing?

Doubtful. None of the plaintiffs in earlier cases have.

67 posted on 09/14/2009 2:34:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

You seem to love seeing obama getting away with thumbing his noes at the Constitution.


68 posted on 09/14/2009 2:37:40 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: normanpubbie; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; ...
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.... to #58.

69 posted on 09/14/2009 2:37:41 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: Krodg
You seem to love seeing obama getting away with thumbing his noes at the Constitution.

No, I love seeing the law upheld.

70 posted on 09/14/2009 2:38:59 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Would you be a lawyer by chance?


71 posted on 09/14/2009 2:41:28 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Would you be a lawyer by chance?

No, but I know quite a few people who are.

72 posted on 09/14/2009 2:44:44 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

And which law, chinslurp, did Obama follow when he proved himself legitimately qualified for CIC?


73 posted on 09/14/2009 2:46:31 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Non-Sequitur
NS:
I don't enjoy your cold glass of water or that other fellow that showed up the other day, ‘cept that you are correct.

I have wondered about discovery and burden for while and I cannot think of any way to compel Barry O. for proof.

Would attacking the COLB as a fraud give cause?

I forgot the fellow and he seemed interesting, if you recall can you include him in this discussion?

74 posted on 09/14/2009 2:47:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Irrelevant. Everyone else in her chain of command can.

Not like your posts are - irrelevant.

I repeat again for you from my post at #39:

"The Afghanistan or the Iraq deployment order came from the Secretary of Defense who works in the Executive Branch of government. The SECDEF works for Obama at his pleasure. It’s the same as if Obama gave her the order."

This particular order, deployment order, to go to war does comes from Obama himself.

For your edification. Here is what her chain of command in descending order possibly looks like... it comes close:

Obama
SECDEF
CINC USCENTCOM
USFOR-A
Corp Commander
Division Commander
Brigade Commander
Battalion Commander
Unit Commander
Immediate supervisor

75 posted on 09/14/2009 2:50:35 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Non-Sequitur
Why would I want to lie?

But in your case, it would be the truth - you defend Obama with obfuscation and anything else that you can get away with.

76 posted on 09/14/2009 2:53:50 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: LucyT

Bump Dat...


77 posted on 09/14/2009 2:54:12 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: SvenMagnussen; LucyT

Thanks.


78 posted on 09/14/2009 2:58:08 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: montag813

You are not funny.


79 posted on 09/14/2009 2:59:55 PM PDT by stockpirate (Joe Wilson Truth Czar for a Free Republic!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Hasn’t precedent already been set by the Army(?not sure which branch it was) already rescinding another soldiers orders based on the same complaint?


80 posted on 09/14/2009 3:01:41 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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