Judge questions Orly Taitz claims to have Obama birth certificate in hearing ...

Ledger Enquirer ^ | Sept. 14, 2009 | CHUCK WILLIAMS

[SvenMagnussen]

During a hearing in U.S. District Court Monday, an attorney for an Army officer fighting deployment to Iraq questioned Barack Obama’s legal right to serve as president, asserting he was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.

Judge Clay Land, inquisitive throughout the 90-minute hearing, said he will issue a decision on Capt. Connie Rhodes’ request for a temporary restraining order by noon Wednesday.

Rhodes was represented by Orly Taitz, a California lawyer and a national figure in the “birther” movement that claims Obama does not meet the qualifications to be president.

California attorney Orly Taitz, the president of the Defend Our Freedoms Foundation, stands on the steps of the Columbus federal courthouse Friday with what she claims is a copy of a birth certificate for President Barack Obama from Mombass, British Protectorate of Kenya.

Maj. Rebecca Ausprung, with the Department of the Army, Litigation Division in Washington, told Land this case was about Rhodes, not Obama.

“There was a lack of any reference to Capt. Rhodes,” Ausprung said. “This case is about Capt. Rhodes and her deployment.”

Taitz kept going back to Obama’s birth certificate. Twice she called Obama a “usurper.”

[mnehring]

Y’all are right, it was the Amendment Act 44 of 1964 that covered most of the UK’s territories in Africa. The 1922 Weights and Measurement act covered trade only, not standardized measurements.

Thanks

[Non-Sequitur]

Only need one case to go to discovery. Eventually, your hero Obama is going to get his comeuppance.

Yeah, how's that going so far?

And what I wrote is correct.

Not so much, no.

[mnehring]

IMHO, it doesn't even need the wig.. the original meme looks pretty close.

[Red Steel]

You must be worried of the truth about Obama of what he is hiding coming out in the open since you’re always on these threads.

[Dan(9698)]

Seems to me that unless the deployment order came directly from the TOTUS or at his request

All military orders come down under the authority of the Commander in Chief, through the chain of command.

Part of basic training is to memorize and be able to state, the chain of command. If there are changes, the changes have to also be memorized.

[Non-Sequitur]

Seems to me that unless the deployment order came directly from the TOTUS or at his request, Maj. Ausprug is obligated to follow the deployment order or risk a dishonorable discharge and perhaps imprisonment.

Bingo. And it's Captain Rhodes who has to follow orders. Major Ausprug is the Army attorney

[SpaceBar]

As much as I admire Orly Taitz’s tenacity, I find myself wondering if her flamboyant courtroom drama queen tactics aren't counter productive. Yes, the birth certificate controversy is important, but the central issue is that Barrack Obama hasn't adequately demonstrated his eligibility to hold the office of President to the American people. The recent revelations of doctored documents attesting to Obama’s candidacy signed by Nancy Pelosi only further cast doubt on his constitutional eligibility vetting.

[Non-Sequitur]

All military orders come down under the authority of the Commander in Chief, through the chain of command.

So? We were in Afghanistan long before Obama was inaugurated. The authority for the rotation of troops could predate Obama by months or years. So unless Captain Rhodes is maintaining that everyone in the chain of command is illegitimate she's going to have a hard time proving her case.

[mnehring]

While we are at it (not even accounting for Lucas’ history), one more thing that I think we should check is the date format, which is written here in standard US format (MM/DD/YY) the standard format for writing the date in the UK as well as her territories is DD/MM/YY.

In other words, in the US, we would write today’s date as 09/14/2009 or Sept 14 2009. In the UK it is written 14/09/2009 or 14 Sept, 2009.

[Non-Sequitur]

You must be worried of the truth about Obama of what he is hiding coming out in the open since you’re always on these threads.

No, I just love to watch the crazy antics of Orly Taitz, Attorney at Law.

[Red Steel]

Only lawful orders. The question still remains if Obama can give lawful orders.

[Red Steel]

You can admit it that you’re an Obot defending socialism.

[Labyrinthos]

The question still remains if Obama can give lawful orders.

The first question is whether 0bama gave the order in the first place. I doubt it.

[TigersEye]

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

[Ro_Thunder]

There is no such thing as the “Democratic” party. There is a democratic process, and our country is supposed to be a democratic republic, but the party is Democrat - or Republican.

Morons.

[jarofants]

Then will she have standing?

[Labyrinthos]

Bingo. And it's Captain Rhodes who has to follow orders. Major Ausprug is the Army attorney.

Thanks for the correction. You seem to agree then, that the deployment order didn't come from 0bama and therefore, his qualifications are irrelevant in ths particular situation.

[Robe]

Technically all military orders come from the Commander in Chief..

[Red Steel]

The Afghanistan or the Iraq deployment order came from the Secretary of Defense who works in the Executive Branch of government. The SECDEF works for Obama at his pleasure. It’s the same as if Obama gave her the order.

[ctdonath2]

And if Rhodes is wrong, Rhodes is in very big trouble.