Posted on 07/21/2007 5:18:11 PM PDT by JenB
So you finally know what happens to Harry. All our questions are answered. Or not. What are your reactions? Whose death hurt the most? Do you want more, and about whom?
SPOILERS are ok on this thread! You have been warned!
Wow. It's over.
I was sad that they cut out the part at St. Mungo’s in the OOTP movie. It would have been fun seeing Gilderoy again.
Dame Judi as Gran? Now that would be cool!
The point that I was making was the fact that J.K. Rowlings wasn’t writing Harry Potter for the young elementary set. The books, especially the latter books, were meant for tweens/ teens. When I was ten, I could have handled Harry’s death.
I understand that seven year olds parents might let them read Deathly Hallows (and I think that it’s wrong on their parts), but I don’t think that Rowlings should have to change her vision just because some parents are willing to subject their seven year olds to the harsh realities of life.
Really? How so?
I would have been more impressed if she had auctioned the ending off to the highest bidder to benefit the Red Cross.
So write your own bestseller and donate all the proceeds. I think you'll find that Jo has donated fantastic amounts of time and money to very worthy causes.
I think Crookshanks was left at the Burrow. I seem to remember him being mentioned near the beginning in preparation for the wedding.
What indication is there that the cup was Goblin-made?
I would think the Goblins would be very worried about their vaults being perceived as open to thieves. If they could be convinced that the horcrux was an evil artifact, and that destroying the it would lead to victory for the Order, they might not be quite so worried about perceptions. After all, once the Order was restored it could be better for Gringotts to be seen as providing safekeeping for non-evil artifacts than to be seen as harboring evil ones.
Yes and most modern preschoolers haven’t read the Grimms fairytales.... They’ve only seen the Disney sanitized version of them.
Ummmm, I wasn’t trying to be snide.
But the Sopranos wasn’t a tragedy, that’s part of the point of the ending and a frequent reminder throughout the show. Tony doesn’t have a tragic flaw, in order to have a tragic flaw you need to be basically a good person. Tony is a mobster, a natural born thief and murderer, a constant philanderer and an all around jerk. He’s not a good person with a tragic flaw, he’s a scumbag with good survival instincts. I don’t think there is going to be a movie, for one thing Chase doesn’t want it. As he said every season he got to work with 13 hours, he got more time to play with in 1 season that the entire Godfather trilogy, and because he was on HBO he could do pretty much anything he wanted with those 13 hours, no censors to speak of to deal with. If he did a movie he’d have 2 or 3 hours to work with and he’d have to argue with the MPAA, why take the demotion. It’s not like HBO wanted to get rid of the show, he’d been talking about ending it for years, they kept writing him bigger and bigger checks, if he wanted to keep the show going in any form all he had to do was say “yes”, he said “no”.
As for being too cool for the rules of drama, screw the rules of drama, screw them in a place that used to be illegal in most states. The goal is to tell the story you want to and hopefully the audience likes it too, if the rules of drama don’t let you do that the rules of drama are wrong. Again this is stuff Chase talked about during the course of the show, that the show was selected time slices in the characters lives, there was stuff that went on before the show, there was stuff going on at the same time you weren’t going to see, and no matter who lived and who died there was going to be stuff that happened after the show. The question isn’t whether Chase is better or worse than anybody, the question is whether the story he wanted to tell fit nicely within completely synthetic artificially constructed rules, and the answer from the first minute of the first episode has always been no. The Sopranos was never a classically defined drama of any category, it was what it was, it wasn’t a tragedy either classical or modern, it wasn’t a comedy, it wasn’t existential except for the one or two dream episodes every year, it just was.
Well, somewhere along the line, she failed to teach you the meaning of sarcasm.
When I was ten, I could have handled Harrys death.
Surely not all children are as special as you.
Look, you continue to miss my point. I don't know if you're just that obtuse or if you're just stubborn. I really don't care. I'm tired of arguing with you.
I really think you're not reading what I'm saying, or what anyone else is saying for that matter. If you were, you'd have realized way up thread that the author's name is J.K. Rowling, not Rowlings as you have typed repeatedly.
Unless, of course, you've read an entirely different set of books.
Which would explain a helluva lot.
“I thought when he said “Look...at...me” he was imploring Harry to “see the real me” when he put his thoughts into the pensieve.”
I pondered that for awhile too, considering his “don’t call me a coward” rant from the previous book, but then I decided that he knew that Harry would know the truth from his thoughts, and he just wanted to see those green eyes one last time.
And Alan Rickman has my vote for best actor in the movies as well as Snape for the most interesting character in the books! :)
*shrug* I though that he would have to become a squib in the process of defeating Voldy.
So many things are beginning to make sense now.
Sh'yeah.
As a classic tragedy, Shakespeare meant for Romeo and Juliet to die from the beginning. That’s the whole idea of a classic tragedy.. Just as Hamlet was going to die, Othello was going to die, etc. When a Elizabethan audience saw tragedy in the title, they knew that bad things were going to happen to the main characters. (BTW, the tragedy of Romeo and Juliet has nothing to do with this is your brain on teenager. It had to with your kids died because you were too busy plotting each other’s destruction. Why people focus on teenage hormones rather than the meaningless civil war in Romeo and Juliet is beyond me).
As for Rowlings, perhaps you should set your sights on all the newspapers who have gotten it wrong before you whine at me.. Or perhaps it’s because I’m too dumb to understand the beauty of the fanfiction Epilogue.
That wouldn’t have been a bad answer either. Would have let him lead a nice life (even as a squib he still would have had access to the magic culture, and all that gold). Paying a price but not tragic. Of course instead JKR had him pay a price on a more esoteric level, he got to lead people into situations where they would probably die, and realized how much that sucks. That’s a big price to pay, especially for a teenager.
I think you are having difficulty understanding the difference between your vision and that of "Rowlings", whoever that is.
Heh, Eurotrash!
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