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Pomologists Bite Off More Than They Can Chew With 200-Year-Old Apple Mystery
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 1-30-2007 | Richard Savill

Posted on 01/29/2007 6:40:07 PM PST by blam

Pomologists bite off more than they can chew with 200-year-old apple mystery

By Richard Savill
Last Updated: 2:01am GMT 30/01/2007

The identity of an apple variety that has been growing in Dorset for 200 years has left fruit specialists baffled.

For generations, the family of Diana Toms has affectionately referred to the fruit as Granfer's Apple, after her great, great grandfather who planted the tree in 1803.

The family has asked pomologists to help establish the cooking apple's identity but they have so far been unable to solve the mystery.

Mrs Toms, 83, said: "I am rather pleased it is baffling all these people. If nobody knows what it is then it should be officially called Granfer's Apple. I would like that."

Mrs Toms' great, great grandfather, Isaac Bugler, grew the tree in an orchard attached to the family home in the village of Beaminster, Dorset. Mrs Toms said: "When I was a child I learnt to catch by standing under the tree. My father would climb up and drop the apples down to me. It is a wonderful cooking apple and my family has used it in cakes and pies for years and years. But if you like a sharp and crisp taste, then the apple is equally good for eating."

Mrs Toms called in specialists at the Symondsbury Apple Day in Dorset but they could not identify it. David Squirrell, of the Symondsbury Apple Project, said: "Its appearance doesn't match up with any other variety. There are lots of things about it, the shape, closed eye and length of stalk. "It might be a new variety that nobody knows about but it is probably an old one that was forgotten about many, many years ago. A completely new variety is very, very rare."


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To: conservative cat

LOL - it's "pommes frites." Hadda look it up...


61 posted on 01/29/2007 8:22:42 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: jdm
Sorry. I thought it was G-rated. Nothing you wouldn't see on network TV after Noon on any given Saturday or Sunday.

Unfortunately, just because it us shown in TV after noon doesn't mean it is good good kids to see.

62 posted on 01/29/2007 8:22:46 PM PST by It's me
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To: paulat
God forbid they see a creation of God, in an image where His glory is so well manifest.

Funny, since Adam and Eve were nekkid, before Eve and Adam ate that apple.

63 posted on 01/29/2007 8:25:31 PM PST by Thumper1960 (Unleash the Dogs of War as a Minority, or perish as a party.)
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To: wireplay
Yeah. I should instead let them see women in burkas. Much more wholesome.

You are a jerk. Are women only sex objects? Then why portray them as such. And don't accuse me of being a feminist or women's lib-er. I just think women deserve more respect.

64 posted on 01/29/2007 8:25:40 PM PST by It's me
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To: baubau
"It wasn't the apple on the tree that caused all the trouble - it was the peach on the ground."

I most enjoy the pair.


65 posted on 01/29/2007 8:26:27 PM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Your children can't be shown a picture of a cheerleader?

A friend gave us football tickets to see the Chargers (they couldn't go to that particular game.) We were quite near the field and right in front of the cheerleaders. My husband and I left after about 15 minutes. The cheerleaders were so degrading to women. And, no, I most certainly am not a prude.

66 posted on 01/29/2007 8:28:28 PM PST by It's me
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To: jdm

Well *I* grinned.


67 posted on 01/29/2007 8:34:36 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: All

Just a quick reminder that one of JimRob's cardinal rules is "No personal attacks." Please? You read it below every reply window.


69 posted on 01/29/2007 8:39:37 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

In almost a decade of posting, I am determined to get banned tonight. Stupid moralistic pieces of sh?t. My goal. We'll see if I make it.


70 posted on 01/29/2007 8:42:46 PM PST by wireplay
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To: wireplay

Your a bit touchy aren't you?

Calm down.


71 posted on 01/29/2007 8:43:00 PM PST by It's me
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To: baubau
It wasn't the apple on the tree that caused all the trouble - it was the peach on the ground.

Lol!!

72 posted on 01/29/2007 8:47:16 PM PST by Rudder
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To: I see my hands

You don't like apples and peaches?

You like pears?


73 posted on 01/29/2007 8:48:04 PM PST by baubau
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To: wireplay
It can be tough not to reply in kind. There were two provocateurs on this thread who started their wisdom out with "you're a jerk." Might be the same person.
74 posted on 01/29/2007 8:48:59 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: It's me

Try not to accuse me of being a jerk without any evidence.

I am a dad with 2 kids, a great life, and a fabulous wife. Saying I am a jerk is indicating that you don't have a clue who I am.

How's that? Touchy?

Why don't you calm down and apologize for a knee-jerk reaction.


75 posted on 01/29/2007 8:50:01 PM PST by wireplay
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To: HairOfTheDog

ROFLOL!!

This is one funny thread.


76 posted on 01/29/2007 8:50:25 PM PST by 2Jedismom (Won't you get hip to this kindly tip When you make that California trip.)
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To: wireplay
What is wrong with you?

No. I will not apologize for calling you a jerk. You are acting like a jerk.

Like I said before, calm down a bit. This is a thread about apples for goodness sake!

77 posted on 01/29/2007 8:55:13 PM PST by It's me
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To: 2Jedismom

Actually all the trouble wasn't caused by an apple, but by a green pair.

I think i'll now tell Eve to turn another leaf.

Bye bye!


78 posted on 01/29/2007 8:59:35 PM PST by baubau
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To: It's me

"This is a thread about apples for goodness sake!

Indeed.

It was the apple that made Adam tell, and it was an apple that made William Tell.


79 posted on 01/29/2007 9:01:12 PM PST by baubau
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To: It's me

"I'm not a prude"


Classic.


80 posted on 01/29/2007 9:01:15 PM PST by wireplay
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