I didn't throw it in and I resent not being called a Conservative. You will find more and more conservatives supporting Rudy and probably McCain because we know how dangerous 8 more years of a Clinton would be and how many hard left judges would be appointed.
People forget that if she wins she will bring along more Senators and Reps and our Conservative agenda is dead. We don't stand a chance. Look at the number of DemocRAT Governors compared to 1998 and you will find the Dems are systematically taking back the Governorships one by one. Why? Because we are running candidates that cannot win and don't stick to issues that matter most to the average voter.
My State of Oklahoma was burning every where last year when our rural fire fighters ran out of money and had ancient equipment which a lot was lost in the fire. They came to the Capitol, sat in the balconey, and waited for the House to pass their legislation. Not our Republican social conservatives -- they debated where gay library books should be located in the library (that is a community problem IMO as well as others) -- didn't vote for several days on money for our rural fire departments. We had a woman killed on I-35 when a portion of bridge where I live fell on her car. Our bridges and roads are in horrible condition but they spent days on feel good resolutions and couldn't pass a budget on time so they came back in special session and spent money like it was going out of style. Did you know that our wonderful social conservatives sponsored in-state tuition for illegals and that the Mormons and evangelicals have joined to support illegals and help them adjust?
I am a rock ribbed conservative but I will not support a candidate that cannot win, spends all their time on social issues when infrastructe is in horrible shape, and wastes my tax dollars on illegals.
Do you know who opposed all the feel good issues here including illegals? Conservatives who do not put social issues above all other Conservative issues.
Do I throw in the towel as a Conservative -- no way. I go back to being a Goldwater bell ringer as a teenager. Do I believe in beating Hillary, I sure do and will work for whoever the nominee is to send her packing once and for all.
This campaign cycle is going to cost more than most of us can imagine and it is going to take someone who can raise the big bucks and get a ton of support. I was called a liberal in 2000 when I supported then Gov Bush on here. Some things never change but anyone can call me anything they want but it doesn't change that I am a conservative Republican that doesn't believe in losing so I will support the candidate that can win. I would support Rudy/Newt in a heartbeat. I just put Steele on there to bug DemocRATs that read here because Steele being nominated would drive them nuts.
"You will find more and more conservatives supporting Rudy and probably McCain...
Hell, the primary season is just beginning. I'd hate for the media to call the Republican front runners in advance and see the conservatives jumping onto the moderate/liberal/traitor bandwagon before the battle has even begun.
As sad as it is to say, McCain and/or Rudy would probably appoint the same hard left judges as hillary would. On questions of abortion, gun rights, the homosexual agenda, and most other areas where liberals use the courts to achieve their goals that they know they can't win at the ballot box, McCain and Rudy and clinton are three peas in a pod. If you are basing your support for McCain or Rudy over clinton on the critical issue of judicial appointments then it doesn't make one whiff of a difference.
Unfortunately, Giuliani's own background has shown he does just that...
Malkin: End Sanctuary for Illegals. "He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."
(Archive NYT): Giuliani Eases Marriage Rule For Foreigners: "Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani announces that immigrants who apply for marriage licenses in New York City cannot be turned away if they are in country illegally and used foreign passport with expired visa as identification; says new rule is intended to clarify procedures at City Clerk's offices, which have been crowded in recent weeks with immigrants hoping to get married before stricter Federal immigration laws take effect on April 1"
(Ping to WPtG for continuation of earlier discussion on this topic.)