Posted on 01/14/2007 5:31:07 PM PST by Tim Long
Heres a law for you! how about the second law of thermodynamics or even the first law. because neither one of them supports evolution.
Anyone can throw out a bunch of websites and then go oh here you go, refute that, but guess what? thats not how it works, bring one thingup specificaly at a time and then individualy will debate it. your not gonnsa get away with trying to make yourself look right by throwing abunch of sites out as though websites in an of them selves are bonafied evidence. bring up one thing at a time specificaly.
What you just did is nothing more than if I said I now all about sports and all i did was put a big oh list of all the team names up and said see I know all the team names, and thats somehow supposed to mean i know all about sports. NO, you bring something up specificaly and then you can go from there. Nice try!
Your claims about the laws of thermodymanics are so often used by creationists, and so often refuted, that they have been assigned numbers!
See Index to Creationist Claims, specifically claims CF000 through CF101.
Oh flapdoodle! Those links not only showed we live in a very old universe, they contained links to original data.
Get off your ass, go to school, come back after 12 years, and then get back to me. Because at that point you yourself will have examined the raw data.
Like I said bring up one specific point at a time and I will debate you. I didnt think thats what you would want to do!!!! thats typical of evolutionists. They just want to throw out stories that they make up to fit what they want to believe. Thats also typical of evolutionists, along with curse words and intolerant comments of anger. It funny how liberals always try to claim that they are about tolerance, but the only tolerance they show is if you agree with them, if you agree with them then you are tolerant but if you dont you can be rest assured that the intolerant evolutionists wont show you any tolerance, you see I never called you a name or cursed at you I come with real logic, and if my real logic wasnt real and it was so obvious then why are you in such a tiff and defensive. Thats because evolution is completely a no evidence religeon. One point at a time and we can present all the evidence one step at a time. Another tid bit of info!!! for all to hear!!!!! did you know that the supposed dinosaurs who lived millions of millions and millions or is it billions and billions of millions billions, Oh whatever, did you know that when they carbon date these bones, GUESS WHAT? there still full of measurable carbon 14 all of them! Dum dum, dum dum for evolution. Oh can we talk of irreducible complexity? cause thats a maaaaaajor blow to evolution. And the true evidence is so great that evolution is just pure nonsense to the core.
Did you know in scientific american in the 1800s it was reported of killing a dinosaur in bolivia, oh yeah another all the word "dragon" is an acient word for dinosaur. therer are countless writings of dinosaurs through out history written by Historians who were highly regarded historians. Even Alexander the great wrote of creatures he had seen and his armies. And the evidence against evolution goes on and on and on and on!!!!! Peace! If this kind of evidences were on the sid eof evolutionists, they would be all for it and be saying look at all the findings we have to show support. but thats neither here nor there because the evidence overwhelmingly shows itself AGAINST evolution. One topic at a time, and I will debate you, that way it can be shown clearly for the other folks out there who you would love to propagandise. But anyways, peace dude!
Good grief. I am not here to walk you thru 5 semesters of astronomy and astrophysics. Click the links, read, and enjoy.
You just may learn something.
Oh well if there so often refuted I will have a use to be evolutionist come on the board and show you different I can assure you he will make your years in science look like kindergarten stuff. your choice. Dont talk the talk if you cant walk the walk.
Its plain and simple the second law of thermo dynamics leads to entropy, and bring on the stupid oh well there id more and more galaxies that just keep passing on energy, cause I know that what gibberish you guys try to push, and thats so domb cause you can have all the kazillion galaxies you want you still have the same questions when you come to the "SOCALLED" first galaxie, very adhock and nothing more than more evolutionists story telling. Peace dude!
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Neither am I thats why I said Mr education if thats what you want to call what you have, I said pick a specific topic or make a point, and go through it step by step. Not try and slop it all out there and say oh see the evidence, cause like I said it dont work that way, your choice! Also it would make yourself look alot more intelligent if you didnt try to make yourself look like I must be all powerful since I went to a universitie, cause that dont make you powerful, truth can make you wise that for sure but you got to want the truth, so get down from the high horse and be real.
I can show you everyone of those supposed refutes the dishonesty in them from evolutionists that you claim are so refuted. evolutionists are nothing more then story tellers they make up the adhock to fit what they want to believe.
False.
The radiocarbon method measures extremely tiny amounts of C14. Half of the original amount disappears every 5730 years, until by about 50,000 years old the beta decay disappears into the background.
To get barely measurable C14 in a sample is very easy, and means nothing. Contamination can provide measurable C14 in otherwise dead samples, as can radiation.
Here are some good links so you can know what you are talking about next time. Those creationist sites are not giving you an accurate story regarding radiocarbon dating.
ReligiousTolerance.org Carbon-14 Dating (C-14): Beliefs of New-Earth CreationistsRadiometric Dating: A Christian Perspective by Dr. Roger C. Wiens.
This site, BiblicalChronologist.org has a series of good articles on radiocarbon dating.
Are tree-ring chronologies reliable? (The Biblical Chronologist, Vol. 5, No. 1)
Tree Ring and C14 DatingHow does the radiocarbon dating method work? (The Biblical Chronologist, Vol. 5, No. 1)
How precise is radiocarbon dating?
Is radiocarbon dating based on assumptions?
Has radiocarbon dating been invalidated by unreasonable results?
Radiocarbon WEB-info Radiocarbon Laboratory, University of Waikato, New Zealand.
Bring 'em on.
Its plain and simple the second law of thermo dynamics leads to entropy,
The earth is not a closed system. You are omitting a minor energy source: the sun.
AH! like I said before they have found many bones were there have been NO and I repeat NO contaiminant sources near by as a matter of fact when they find these bones the c14 is tracing AWAY from the bone into the ground. And it isnt trace amounts its considerably measurable amounts. I mean dont you want to be honest? My resources are from those who use to be evolutionists and they are very learned in the subject, longer than 30 years and they arent stupid do you think they would actualy argue something if it wasnt refutable? So lets present all the evidence thats all Im trying to say here! Peace dude!
Oh yeah did you know there have been many bones that are supposed Millions and billions yawn! that still have tissue in them blood vessels and when they squeezed the cessels blood came out of them, millions and billions yawn! of years? And theres still soft tissue, dont seem right to me. Did you know when they found a bone like this in 2005 the evolutionists already had a supposed answer no study notesting no nothing it just showed them embarasment so they had to quickly resort to You guessed it ! more adhock story telling. Made up seat of the pants junk science, thats all evolutionists ever do. Along with the evironmentalists scare tactic crowd! Peace! I mean no strife, trying to be peaceable here! later!
What in the simpleton does that matter? The second law states that if I had a peace of paper on the deak and leaft it there it will not be in the samre order over time this is exactly what happens here on the earth just as it also claims in the bible the world will wax old as a garment! from evolutionists standpoints everything would have to start out in disarray and then come to order! guess what it dont work like that everything was in order and it is running down! thus the second law of thermodynamics plain and simple!
From your posts, you have no idea what the 2nd law of thermodynamics says. Can you tell me? You haven't in any of your posts so far. I'll give you a hint: there are no words in the second law of thermodynamics so if you give me a description, you don't know what you are talking about. Since you've only been here for two weeks, let me tell you something. The people you are arguing with are people that are highly educated and do this sort of thing for a living. They put their money where their mouths are and use the information they are posting productively every day. In other words, you are arguing with the people who have forgotten more in these subjects than you will ever learn.
Doc30 come on who are you kidding? If that propaganda is all these people have understood from their education then I would ask for my money back! I graduated too, but I dont sit on a egotistical high horse because Im insecure of myself. I have described the second law of thermodynamics in a simple way but none the less effective! 1st law of thermodynamics you cant create nor destroy matter energy what ever, and yet we know you cant obtain something from nothing, so where did it all come from? Everything evolutionists propagandise almost every time to try and support their claims isnt testable it isnt seen anywhere, never been modeled etc...etc...
evolutionists are story tellers, they make up what fits their want beliefs. How come evolutionists always propagandise that it takes a long time to fossilise something when it most certainly doesnt! But they sure try and make it look so. thats called dishonesty! Jumping through the hoops of a biased controlled university atmosphere doesnt make you smart, it just makes one book knowledgable in which any book can be a lie, contain have truths etc...etc.. but if you are honest you would look at ALL of the evidence! Peace dude!
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