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No Giuliani, No McCain
Petition Online ^ | Dec. 14, 2006 | Andrew Longman

Posted on 12/15/2006 7:22:32 PM PST by FarRockaway

To: The Republican Party

I am a Christian conservative or social conservative. I am Pro-Life. I vote.

Rudy Giuliani is pro-gay, pro-gun control, and pro-abortion.

For these reasons and others, I state very firmly that I will not vote for Rudy Giuliani for President of the United States under any circumstances.

Senator John McCain has waffled on human cloning, has supported experimentation on human embryos, and has attacked prominent Christian clergy because of the, "evil influence that they exercise." John McCain has said of Pro-Life voters, on a public broadcast radio show, that they are, "otherwise intelligent people who say that that's the only issue that will determine their vote." McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle, "I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade."

For these reasons and others, I state very firmly that I will not vote for John McCain for President of the United States under any circumstances.

Sincerely,


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KEYWORDS: 100percenters; giuliani; mccain; nowaymccain; runjohnrun; tancredo; traitorjohn
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To: Echo Talon
I vote and I'm voting for Rudy, twice.

Bump that and raise you one.

101 posted on 12/15/2006 7:59:06 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: BonnieJ

I can understand some people holding these beliefs. I cannot understand why they would proudly parade those beliefs in front of the whole world: "Look, everyone! I'm a stupid bigot!"


102 posted on 12/15/2006 7:59:46 PM PST by EveningStar
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To: mnehrling

Petitions are ineffective if you don't sign them.
Why not sign it instead of sophistry?

Condi?

Name 1 accomplishment.

She's held offices. What are the great achievements of her time in office? Zippo.

She's a pro-abort as well.


103 posted on 12/15/2006 7:59:50 PM PST by FarRockaway (This despotic gerrymander a greater freedom than what once was?)
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To: NapkinUser
Aren't you the cute one? Serial posting.

Here's to you!

104 posted on 12/15/2006 8:00:11 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: mirkwood

Rudy is stronger on gun control than Hilruh.

Lesbians still believe in using guns to fend off men once in a while.


105 posted on 12/15/2006 8:01:32 PM PST by FarRockaway (This despotic gerrymander a greater freedom than what once was?)
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To: BonnieJ

Also, Reagan and W are 2 different circumstances

Reagan was a popular actor, well known and generally well liked by the public, 2 term Governor of the largest state in the Union and automatic possessor of 55+ EV. He also had the luck to run against the worst President of the past 50 years who happened to be going through a hostage crisis and stagflation that ruined his chances. Carter would have lost to anyone that year.

Bush was running against a VP of a 2 term dem incumbent who was impeached and was highly polarizing. He too was a 2 term governor of the 2nd largest state in the Union and automatic possesor of 35+ EV. He had name recognition. He also ran as a "compassionate" conservative who was a uniter and bipartiand and would clean up the morals after Slick. He also ran against a guy with the personality of 2X4 and a Jew as his VP. Even with all of that, Bush LOST the popular vote and won the Electoral vote by the narrowest of margins and truth be told, I don't think anyone will ever really know who "won" Florida.

In any event, their situations are totally different to '08 when the country will have just had 8 years of a GOP President whose approval ratings figure to stay in the mid 30s and who is bitterly despised by the left and large segments of the media and the pundits.

Tom Tancredo, the poster's candidate has as much chance of winning as Dennis Kucinich does on the dem side, which is to say none at all.

I'm all for a more conservative candidate than Rudy por McCain but that guy doesn't appear to be revealing himself just yet. There's still time though. Is Romeny the guy? Who knows? The mormon thing will hurt him


106 posted on 12/15/2006 8:01:41 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: elcid1970
Many people in the South ignorantly loathe Mormons, deriding them as "cultists". This from a group of people who still think Bear Bryant is alive and well.
The "South" is not just Alabama.  Maybe they think that there but I've not seen/heard it anywhere else. 
107 posted on 12/15/2006 8:01:43 PM PST by Shamrock-DW
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To: onyx

No you "mis-understood" what I said: OR I said it wrong: Ronald Reagan was both a Smaller-Gov conservative (what I call libertarian leaning): fiscal restraint/ect. I didn't mean to insinuate that Reagan was a part of th libertarian" party.


108 posted on 12/15/2006 8:02:00 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com)
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To: onyx

"We don't bash religions here, save for Islam."

Yup, you are fine with a wiccan, santerian, a satanist, an atheist, an animist, or someone who believes in magic underwear BECAUSE IT IS INTOLERANT TO BE INTOLERANT


109 posted on 12/15/2006 8:02:00 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: FarRockaway

Rice is not running so there is no worry about her being president.

Rice was never seriously mentioned as a presidential candidate until the Dick Morris book. Does he have that much clout?


110 posted on 12/15/2006 8:02:16 PM PST by NapkinUser (Tom Tancredo for president of the United States of America in 2008!)
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To: TeenagedConservative
Good evening.

Don't forget that McCain sided with jon carry in his betrayal of our POW/MIAs from Vietnam and in the cruel treatment of their families.

He will not be President.

Michael Frazier
111 posted on 12/15/2006 8:02:18 PM PST by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: samm1148

Go Samm!


112 posted on 12/15/2006 8:03:12 PM PST by FarRockaway (This despotic gerrymander a greater freedom than what once was?)
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To: FarRockaway
Sorry FarRockaway, getting behind Tom Tancredo is like taking a b-b gun to a battlefield. all values aside, from a purely marketing perspective, he cannot cut it.. we need someone with Tancredo's values but we also need someone who can serve as a figurehad and has the personality and media savvy to get the people's attention, not just the 10% who pay attention..

A lot of people on our side like Rudy because he is media savvy and they are following him because they know he can win.. why, when he doesn't share the same values beyond defense, it is all because of personality.

Like it or not, we are in a marketing driven world.

Personally, I like Condi but she isn't running, and I don't see too many yet on our side who are a new incarnation of Reagan or Eisenhower. McLame and Rudy may be Nixons, but Tancredo is a Dole.. either way, we lose.
113 posted on 12/15/2006 8:03:37 PM PST by mnehring (Virtus Junxit mors non Separabit)
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To: GOP_Raider

"Many people in the South ignorantly loathe Mormons, deriding them as "cultists"."

Why would I be ignorant to oppose the presidency of someone who believes they will become God of their own planet? Seems like a pretty real problem to me.


114 posted on 12/15/2006 8:04:09 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: onyx

i have not been able to understand the dislike of mccain among some freepers. no hes not a christian conservative but he is a consistent conservative.

No one has given me a good reason to dislike him. All i hear are innuendo and made up stuff like the poster i replied to.

Any takers. I already mentioned that he breaks with us on global warming and amnesty for illegals. Is there anything else?


115 posted on 12/15/2006 8:04:11 PM PST by minus_273
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To: FastCoyote

Shove it. A Mormon is running for the nomination, not a wiccan, athiest or a satanist.

Grow up.


116 posted on 12/15/2006 8:04:12 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: minus_273

Campaign Finance Reform with Feingold.

I will be happy to vote for McCain if he's our nominee.



117 posted on 12/15/2006 8:05:15 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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To: I got the rope

It's not just YOUR party. It's ours, too.


118 posted on 12/15/2006 8:05:24 PM PST by Howlin
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To: FarRockaway

I didn't say petitions were ineffective, I said ON LINE petitions are ineffective.. trust me, I've worked in enough campaign offices to know what is laughed at and tossed in the trash..


119 posted on 12/15/2006 8:05:34 PM PST by mnehring (Virtus Junxit mors non Separabit)
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To: Jaysun
"I won't vote for a woman."

So let's say a Thatcheresque Republican one day finds herself up against a Kerryesque 'Rat in the general election, and there were no attractive third party candidates. Would you sit that one out?

120 posted on 12/15/2006 8:05:36 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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