Posted on 10/02/2006 9:16:45 AM PDT by DCBryan1
Edited on 10/02/2006 12:55:46 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Developing....
School Shooting injures one person,
Hostage situation may be developing.
Update: Multiple Shooting Victims and Possible Hostages in Lancaster County
Not many details available yet, but an incident has been reported from Mine Rd. in Bart Township in Lancaster County involving multiple gunshot victims. Dennis Buterbaugh reports live from our newsroom. abc27 has a news crew on the way. We will update with details as they become available.
Update 2: Pennsylvania Police: Amish School is 'Horrendous Crime Scene' After Shooting
NICKEL MINES, Pa. At least two female students and one slightly older female who may have been a teacher's aide were shot and killed execution style in what police say may be a revenge killing for something that happened 20 years ago.
State Police Commissioner Jeffrey Miller said Monday that truck driver Charles Carl Roberts IV entered the one-room Amish schoolhouse in earlier in the day. The gunman brought in pieces of wood to board up the doors to the building when he entered the school. He also stacked desks against the building's doors.
"It appears that the suspect entered school with the intention of taking hostages," Miller said.
Roberts had wire ties and plastic flex cuff, which he used to begin tying the hostages feet together after they were lined up along a blackboard. He let go 15 male students, as well as one adult female who was pregnant. Three other non-student females with infants were also allowed to leave. One shotgun and one handgun was found next to the suspect when police entered the building.
"It seems as though he wanted to attack young, female victims," Miller said.
After a half hour inside, Roberts began shooting. When the gunfire stopped, three females were found shot dead at the scene, along with the suspect, who shot himself, Miller said. At least seven more victims some critically wounded were transported to nearby hospitals, he said. One victim, a young girl, died in the arms of a trooper, Miller said. He could not confirm how many people died en route or at the hospital. The county coroner earlier reported six children killed but then backed off of that statement.
Be interesting what they find on his computer....if he has one.
The Amish don't shun medical treatment, or the use of medical devices. From what I have heard/read this a.m. the 7 year old had 'catastrophic' injuries.
Words can't truly describe the horror and insanity of what happened. Just please say a prayer.
One thing is for certain, and is readily observable if one studies the last decade's worth of these incidents -- when one incident happens, others quickly follow.
The reason for this is plain: The media plasters stories of the initial event all over the front page and TV screen for days on end, thereby pushing any borderline "fence sitters" over the edge. Whether intentional or not, this effect is seen in almost every instance.
So in a sense, the media itself, in making such a spectacle of tragedy, sets the stage for the next bloodbath.
As my brother (A sociology major) said years ago, "the media keeps the crazies thinking about it".
Just how many inaliable rights are you ready to surrender? I'm keeping my damn guns whether 7 year or 70 year olds are gunned down everyday. Its bleeding hearts like you that have us in such a moral deficiency today.
It could be very difficult to sort out who the children were, especially if injured so critically. The families are very genetically intertwined and their coloring is pretty homogeneous- light brown to blonde hair and usually blue eyes. And the children are clothed the same with the same hairstyles. They don't have stacks of family photos around to help sort out identities, either.
Excellent point. Interesting how only firearms have some sort of magical, evil property that singles them out for special treatment when they are misused.
What ignorant people (ignorance can be cured, liberalism and stupidity can't BTW) such as defconw don't realize that cars and personal transport are not explicitly guaranteed in the Constitution, yet those "evil" guns are.
Don't you think it's just a little odd that they don't believe in defending themselves, but that they do believe in calling in the police to defend them?
And as for "heartless", don't you think it's more than a little "heartless" to be so ruthlessly pacifist that you will stand by and watch your loved ones be murdered just so that you can maintain your perfect, flawless, 100% unblemished record in the pantheon of pacifism?
But do they believe in calling in the police to do their fighting for them?
A total weapons ban would not have kept this nut from murdering these little girls. Evil people will find a way to kill, with or without weapons. Pray for the families of the victims and stop blaming inanimate objects for the evil acts of disturbed people.
We may never know what happened, but I guess we all (media included) just look for that small red flag that foretell of his plan.
The other thing is, as I understand it, it was one person who called the police. I don't know if that is a reflection of the philosophy of the whole community or not. Even if she acted on her own in violation of that, once the police were called, they were involved.
But you do understand the moral depravity of the situation: "WE won't fight [and possibly die] to defend the lives of our loved ones, but we're more than happy to call in the police and let THEM fight [and possibly die] to defend the lives of our loved ones..."
Frequently, I really hate the world we live in.
The argument about packing really would make no difference in this situation. The Amish do not carry arms. They may use guns in hunting ( I don't know) but their religion teaches non violence. That is why they do not enlist in wars or conflicts and were exempt as CO from being drafted when the US had the draft.
No doubt the sick bastard who did this was well aware that no adults would likely be armed and able to defend against the attack. The news reports claim this crime was done as an act of revenge against young girls for something that happened 2o years ago. I am betting with a very sinking dread that the something will turn out to be that this sicko was prosecuted for molestation and the main witnesses against him were young girls. So he gets out of jail and this is what happens.
God grant peace to the families of these girls and may the arms of Jesus welcome the victims into heaven.
I keep getting waves of tears and goosebumps. It's as if the heartache is so intense you can almost touch it.
That argument does not work in this situation. The Amish largely do not believe in firearms, and even if the teacher had a gun in a desk drawer, I doubt she could have gotten a draw on this guy given the situation.
Let's save the gun arguments for when they have relevance.
It isn't the guns. It is the increasingly immoral and chaotic world we live in.
I wouldn't call the Amish pacifists, they have a forgiving heart.. Just as the Bible teaches all of us should have.
If the man who shot the children had the same forgiving heart this never would have happened.
Perhaps if our country would go back to the teachings of Jesus a lot of bad things wouldn't happen out of revenge.
His children had a babysitter, who gave witness to what he said & did when he sent his kids off to school yesterday.
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