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Hey! FR. Veronica and I were Quoted in VARIETY!!!
VARIETY ^ | July 31, 2006 | Hildy

Posted on 07/31/2006 4:43:47 PM PDT by Hildy

On Saturday, Gibson released a statement apologizing:

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. I drove a car when I should not have, and was stopped by the L.A. County Sheriffs. The arresting officer was just doing his job and I feel fortunate that I was apprehended before I caused injury to any other person. I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable. I am deeply ashamed of everything I said, and I apologize to anyone who I have offended. Also, I take this opportunity to apologize to the deputies involved for my belligerent behavior. They have always been there for me in my community and indeed probably saved me from myself. I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior and for that I am truly sorry." <> He went on in the statement to say that he has had substance abuse problems in the past. "I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse. I apologize for any behavior unbecoming of me in my inebriated state and have already taken necessary steps to ensure my return to health," Gibson said.

The ADL's Foxman, however, was unmoved by the apology. In his own statement, released Sunday, he said, "Mel Gibson's apology is unremorseful and insufficient. It's not a proper apology because it does not go to the essence of his bigotry and his anti-Semitism. His tirade finally reveals his true self and shows that his protestations during the debate over his film 'The Passion of the Christ,' that he is such a tolerant, loving person, were a sham. ... It is unfortunate that it took an excess of booze and an encounter with a traffic cop to reveal what was really in his heart and mind. We would hope that Hollywood now would realize the bigot in their midst and that they will distance themselves from this anti-Semite."

And there were signs that even Gibson's conservative Christian fans were not moved by the response. Reaction in the popular conservative online forum FreeRepublic.com, was also largely negative. In response to the statement, one commenter posted, "Gibson showed his true colors last night during his arrest. I argued with you about 'The Passion of the Christ' and his portrayal of Jews. I stood up for Gibson to you and a number of my Jewish friends. Now, I'm sorry I did."

Another, responding to hopeful comments that Gibson can still change his views, wrote, "Lots of denial going on here. It's difficult when your hero falls so far."


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To: Hildy
Freepers were sensitive to Kennedy's alcoholism, which, when it comes to the Kennedy family, is hardly a disease ~ it is a free will lifestyle choice ~ they KNOW what will happen if they drink and they go ahead and do it.

Calling that a disease is way off the mark. However, Pat lied about using dope. He lied about whatever the traffic incident was.

BTW, Fidel Castro is getting his guts cut tonight.

There, I said it again ~ dispells the depression induced by considering the Kennedys.

361 posted on 07/31/2006 8:35:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: SJackson

I've mentioned I'm Jewish a thousand times...but that's not the point. There were probably a thousand posts about the subject yesterday. There's a possibility they didn't really read them all. I have to confess that out of the thousand posts, I probably posted a third of them. I'll admit it...so it's not surprising they picked up on something I said...plus...I'm so darn articulate! :)


362 posted on 07/31/2006 8:35:15 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: justche

That's an interesting take...what do you suppose the "other" side of the story is?


363 posted on 07/31/2006 8:36:31 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SJackson
"As to the doctoring, there are several threads, essentially the accusation is that the local police "requested" the arresting officer "rewrite" his report, so that the antisemitic statements weren't part of the public record. Some sources say they were to be included in a separate report to the states attorney, but it found it's way to the media, so that's that."

I read in another article that the higher-ups in that police dept may have ask the officer to edit out some things in the police report because Mel Gibson set up a scholarship fund for the children of fallen officers.

I have no idea if its true, but I could see where they might do that without being ask to.

If the MSM didn't have it in their mind that Gibson was part of the evil "Right", I doubt we would be hearing about it after the first day it came out.
364 posted on 07/31/2006 8:36:41 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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To: muawiyah
A lot of that was anti-semitic; though yes, there were some homosexual barbs thrown in as well. It got VERY ugly and VERY nasty.

As to "trigger words", though I shan't repeat any, the majority were blatantly anti-semitic; sadly.

And there's no point in either of us looking through the archives, now, because I think that ALL of those threads have been removed.

365 posted on 07/31/2006 8:36:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Peach

I assumed they must have been solicited for their quotes, as why else would anyone want to publicize such quotes in the context of "Christian fans at FR"?

Variety believes that conservative = Christian. Of course, they are led to believe that and it suits their purposes.

It's too bad that Hildy has supported Mel Gibson for months and defended him. Sadly she's turned out to be wrong about him.


366 posted on 07/31/2006 8:37:13 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: SJackson

The W-N word?


367 posted on 07/31/2006 8:38:58 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Peach; Hildy
My question was, are those the threads where she was quoted in Variety? I'm not trying to make you go looking stuff up and searching; but I'm wondering if you're right that Variety knows that Hildy is Jewis and quoted her as a Christian anyway.

I am assuming so because the quote in this article is the same as in the first link I posted

IMO .. Variety mentioned her being christain .. because of the far right angle and not about her being jewish or not

Peach .. my point is .. many liberals have said many nasty nasty things about jewish people and there is hardly a peep from the media about it

Yes, Gibson should take alot of heat for his comments .. and so should the liberals .. but the hypocrites from Variety won't do that

368 posted on 07/31/2006 8:39:02 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: nunya bidness

Remind me of your post reprimanding everyone who derided Patrick Kennedy when he relapsed...I'll wait your reply.


369 posted on 07/31/2006 8:39:04 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy

You don't have to think Mel has a cute hiney - I won't hold that against you.


370 posted on 07/31/2006 8:39:41 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Hildy
I've mentioned I'm Jewish a thousand times...but that's not the point.

I'm sorry, I haven't been paying attention. Needles to say, others have.

You know, this whole conversation, who's a Jew, is sick. But it's part of the forum, isn't it. Someone need to clue Variety in.

371 posted on 07/31/2006 8:39:47 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: unsycophant
re: I assumed they must have been solicited for their quotes)))

Maybe it was Variety that got solicited, rather than doing the approaching.

372 posted on 07/31/2006 8:39:56 PM PDT by Mamzelle (in vino, veritas)
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To: Hildy
Why I would exect people like you to have ANY sense of humor is a flaw on my party.

People like me???

Gee ... are you going to tell me to go to hell too????

373 posted on 07/31/2006 8:41:06 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Chanticleer; Peach
Most Freepers are violently in favor of totally free speech.

It is incorrect to call free speech advocates "antisemites".

Actually, those who want to punish speech under so-called "hate crime" laws are Islamofascists, leftwingnuts and Nazi sympathizers for the most part.

Few such people post here for any length of time ~ 10 minutes tops until a ZOT.

374 posted on 07/31/2006 8:42:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Chanticleer

white -igger. Someone who sympathizes with -iggers of a different skin color I presume. A famous Byrd pronouncement four or five years ago, I'm thinking on CNN in the morning. Got some attention, not a lot. I don't remember the exact context, other than he's known some.


375 posted on 07/31/2006 8:42:47 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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To: muawiyah

Neither should they be posted; he is irrelevant.


376 posted on 07/31/2006 8:42:50 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mamzelle
Are you nuts...are you saying I contacted them...is that what you're implying?
377 posted on 07/31/2006 8:42:52 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SJackson
Did you mean to say Variety knew she was Jewish, largely irrelevan, and ommitted it? If so, I'd be curious why they did that. If that wasn't your meaning, never mind.

If they had read at least half of the thread .. they would have known because she stated she was

And yes .. I do think they ignored it

378 posted on 07/31/2006 8:43:01 PM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Mo1

If you keep saying insulting things I will.


379 posted on 07/31/2006 8:44:07 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: SJackson
Sort of like calling a black conservative an Oreo -- but in reverse?

My head is spinning.

380 posted on 07/31/2006 8:45:07 PM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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