Posted on 07/06/2006 7:01:52 AM PDT by SquirrelKing
You do kind of flit all over with how the war began.
You are pretty steady on how it has to be Lincoln's fault, but then you blame the starting of the shooting on an unarmed supply ship, the Citadel Cadets, and who knows what else.
So, do you want Bush to surrender when unelected Al Queda decides they want half the US to run his own way?
If not, what is your definition of the appropriate time when the President should surrender to a local tinpot dictator? Should he surrender half the country, just a few states, or the whole thing?
Inquiring minds want to know.
that "term of abuse" was coined by "morris dees, the SHYSTER-in-chief" of the so-called "southern poverty law center" SOLEY to be INSULTING (dees has admitted that his specific intent was to INSULT southerners.)to ALL of the people of dixie (or at least those of us, who despise his LEFTIST/anti-Christian/amoral/secular humanist views. that is about 95+% of southerners!)
fwiw, the BIGOT/fool/class clown = "m.eSPINola" has ADMITTED that HIS INTENT too is to INSULT our dixie people.
as for me, call me "PALEO-Confederate" if anything. fwiw, i'm a member of one of the "old rebel families", who have not forgotten, NOR will ever forget, how sweet it was to have a FREE dixie republic for 4 years.
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
My silly question is how could you remember? How old are you?
My understanding is the Jeff Davis didn't want to secceed, and planned his war to not succeed. (Pun intended). As such, he is as much a father of the war as Lincoln. He managed to get a fairly large part of the south restored to the Union in only 4 years, a notable achievement.
he also, in his prior service screwed up the statue on top of the capitol (he didn't hold with the phrygian cap of liberty) and was rather important in the Gasden Purchase. The latter added to what are now the states of Arizona, New Mexico, and by some accounts, a tiny part of Texas.
After his death, his wife became the best of friends with Mrs. Grant. A good example to us all.
the rest of the country should let ANY state/states "go in peace", whenever that state/group of states FREELY CHOOSES to leave the union.
fwiw, you & i may just live to see Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan leave the union by free vote & become a Spanish-speaking, predominently Roman Catholic, independent country. (my guess is, about 20 years from now, the states of AZ,CA CO,OR NM,NV & WA will "vote with their feet".)
assuming that that occurs, and YOU are POTUS, how many MILLION innocents will YOU, Mr. President, CHOOSE TO KILL rather than lose SEVEN of the fifty states of the USA??? (inquiring minds want to know.)
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
If a state was to decide to leave, who would determine the terms? The state, or the fed? Or would we fight over the terms? Is there any federal supremacy in your mind?
No, actually you have talked about how POOR the census figure were without offering a shred of hard documentation to back up your claims. I've found nothing that supports the claim that the census figures were so far off. If we figure that at least half of all free blacks of military age enlisted, a percentage probably higher than their white counter parts, then for "Professor" Blackerby's claims, assuming he actually made them, to be correct for every free black male of military age that the census counted it must have missed 10 to 12. You actually want us to believe that the population of the U.S. was closer to 360 million than 30?
Well sure. They couldn't very well put all those cooks and teamsters and servants and laborers in separate units by themselves, could they? Who would slop the mules and wash the mess if they did?
SORRY that you don't like the TRUTH, but the TRUTH is the TRUTH!
And when has the TRUTH! ever been found in one of your posts?
ROTFLMAO
Glory? Well I'm not aware of any other who had a movie made about them, but black regiments served on most fronts and performed sterling service, even if they didn't get the credit the 54th did. They were at Olustee, Poison Spring, Plymouth, the Crater, as you well know since the south executed so many black prisoners at those battles. They made up whole divisions in the Army of the Potomac.
You'll find that you will hear a lot of things for the first time in one of stand's posts. He has a most fertile imagination although Ms. Shwerin is starting to come close.
Terms???? TERMS????? They don't need no stinkin' terms! In the southeron mindset the only people with any rights and who are due any constitutional protections were those in the South. The rest of the country didn't have any.
Well your pun was wasted on watie, but in any event I have to disagree with you. Davis was a supporter of secession, and was actually angling for appointment as Secretary of War or Commanding General of the army. He was nobody's first choice for president.
Stand's spell-check is obviously working as well as his shift key.
If you had a credible record of it, sure.
But, you missed my point. You posted to Ruth that you 'knew' that Lincoln 'never' said the 'bringing the South to her knees' line.
So, whereas Ruth may not be able to prove the quote, you can only accurately state that there is not a record of Lincoln saying this but the only proof you could possibly muster that he 'never' said those words is if you were with Abe 24/7 and heard every word that he uttered during this period.
Get it?
Anytime, sweetheart.
And the Father of Centralized Government.
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