Posted on 06/09/2006 6:16:57 AM PDT by tomzz
You can't help but notice that there is a very vocal sort of a little clique of evolutionists on FreeRepublic, and there has always been a question in a lot of people's minds as to whether or not the theory of evolution is in any way compatible with conservatism.
This new book ("Godless") of Ann Coulter's should pretty much settle the issue.
Ann does not mince words, and she has quite a lot to say about evolution:
"Liberals' creation myth is Charles Darwin's theory of evolution, which is about one notch above scientology in scientific rigor. It's a make-believe story, based on a theory which is a tautology, with no proof in the scientists laboratory or the fossil record, and that's after 150 years of very determined looking. We wouldn't still be talking about it but for the fact that liberals think evolution disproves God....
It gets better from there, in fact a lot better. Ann provides a context for viewing the liberal efforts to shut down everything resembling debate on the subject in courtrooms and makes a general case that it is the left and not the right, which is antithetical to science in general. Anybody interested in this question of American society and the so-called theory of evolution should have a copy of this book
That was funny! Darwin>>>Ruth Bader Ginsburg...
Or perhaps a convoy of semis?
Actually I think what really happened is that dinosaurs are still living today, it's just suppressed by a government information blackout. They got to the "excavation" site, shot a T. rex that charged the camp, carved it up and grilled some for dinner, and brought back a few steaks so they could "analyze" them and publish a couple of articles in Science. Meanwhile the authors and the editors of Science are laughing at the public behind their hands--"Can't believe they fell for that!"
Closest thing to something which might could run over a large dinosaur would be one of the big trucks they use in mining operations. The most major company which manufactures them is called Liebherr; you might want to check their website.
Now, I did watch a rather interesting program last evening, on some channel or another, that was talking about certain beasties, like the Loch Ness Monster, living today, in various oceans, and lakes...it was quite interesting...mostly it was cryptozoologists, talking about different stories, that have held over time, that in certain lakes, in some parts of the oceans, there live monsters, large beasties...it seems that every lake of any big size, has its local monster, living in the lake...
There are any number of eyewitnesses, who make their reports...of course, as has been noted, these are people who actually go out looking for these beasties, equipped with cameras, binoculars, and appropriate gear for monster watching...when they return with their tales, it is noted, that they claim they 'forgot' to take the pictures, or they 'forgot' to take the protective lens off thee camera, or they 'forgot', to put film in the camera, or they take a pic, but its so fuzzy, and so poorly taken, that it could be anything from a couple of beavers to a flock of birds to a real 'beastie'....
Of course, most of the towns that surround such lakes encourage the telling of these stories, because, of course, there is a financial incentive...beasties and monsters attract all sorts of folks, who need motels, and restaurants, and campgrounds and gear and such...so of course, the town gets much needed money by promoting these monsters...
But if one could actually be found, dead or alive, then we might have some good scientific discussion about these things...
Thing is tho, creationists would use the example of a recently deceased or currently living 'beastie', to say, that this disproves evolution, when in fact, is does no such thing...because I do believe, that while most of a species may be extinct, there is always a remote chance, that in some isolated area in the depths of the ocean, or the depths of very dark, deep lakes, isolated by time and place, there may actually be some 'dinosaur' that has actually managed to survive, breeding and passing on its genes to another generation...not likely, mind you, but I always leave room for the possibility...now, I suppose some will think I sound nutty..so be it...
You believe the MSM when it comes to things you know journalists are too dumb to understand? Journalists are experts on one thing only, propaganda.
Every thing else they screw up.
"So yes, you may in fact succeed in getting things set up where as believers we are reviled, rejected, relegated to humiliating, low paying jobs and generally looked down upon as ignorant rednecks."
I said nothing about being believers. I said those who are scientifically illiterate will make great burger flippers. Your children will have something to look forward to.
"If that makes you feel happy, then I feel profoundly sorry for you."
Since I didn't say that, your pity is misplaced.
What precisely in the following is too difficult to understand (for you, me, a journalist, or the mailman)?
"The specimen was very far away from road, (so) everything had to be done with a helicopter." The field team used standard procedure as they excavated the bones, wrapping them in plaster jackets before transporting them..This particular dinosaur fossil was too big to lift and they reluctantly cracked a thighbone....
That's pretty ordinary stuff and, yet, we have the typical evolutionist here calling me a fraud for citing it and by inference calling MSNBC and Reuters frauds. It's one thing when there's some political axe to grind and somebody like Dan Rather loses it and fabricates some sort of a story, but I don't see the axe in this one unless you're trying to claim that MSNBC and Reuters are a bunch of bible thumping holy rollers intent on defrauding the public. That strikes me as pretty far fetched.
The first time you come in with an old, discredited, version of what happened, it can be accounted a mistake. The fifth time ... I have to tell you it looks bad.
The point is, take what the MSM says with a grain of salt.
If you have the actual source, go with that and not the media's "interpretation" of it.
I've said this time and again.
Science and the media go together like oil and water.
Besides, I believe that using the word "meat" to describe blood cells is fraudulent.
"Natural Selection" was not a term used in my day. As a matter of fact, the term does not even represent HOW evolution was taught. Back then, evolution was taught that a monkey would eventually become a man because of the environmental changes that came about. In other words, they changed because it was forced upon them by environmental changes.
Now, I read about this natural selection and the central premise is a species becomes a different species by choosing to adapt to the environmental changes around it.
Now for those who think I just said the same thing, read it again.
Frankly, I believe that a species will naturally change and adapt to the changes around it as a matter of life preserving itself. But, I still have not read any science that convinces me that a species actually becomes a different species.
I do believe that the scientific world has spent its credibility trying to beat a dead horse and has only changed terms and definitions. Especially of that term we call "species."
I was taught that the difference between species was the difference in genetic markers which defines it. If those markers are not there, then it is not that species.
Now they are saying-if memory serves me correctly, and trust me, I stand to be corrected if I am wrong-that a species can adapt from natural selection and become a different species though the genetic markers have not changed.
Notwithstanding, I remember a math teacher saying to me once, "A rose is a rose is a rose." And I will stand by the scriptural reference implying that when you plant an apple seed, no matter how different you change its environment to get a yellow or a red one, it is still an apple.
Gone are the days when scientists hypothesized the notion that if you plant an apple seed, you can get an orange. Man is man, monkey is monkey, a tulip is a tulip, whatever its size, shape, or color. In other words, whatever seeds are planted in the creation of Life, THAT is what you will get.
Horse + Jackass will always = a half-ass mule. For those expecting a zebra, you may have a few million years to wait and in the end will be very disappointed. However, you might expect to be extincted yourself.
You could have stopped here. Heck, why blame you? I could have stopped here.
4 of the New Jesey 9/11 widows who used and abused their grief to bash those who defended the Iraqi war!
'abused their grief'? Not sure what that means. How does one abuse one's grief? I've heard of abusing things like success, victory, triumph. luck, etc. But how does one abuse one's grief. Do you have experience in this?
The question is not when was Jimmy Hoffa was deposited in the cement, but which is older. In this case, it would be Jimmy Hoffa. Your example lacks credibility inasmuch as (it is assumed) the depositions encasing fossils typically took place over long periods of time as opposed to a sudden application of Ready Mix.
I understand the fossil record to be chiefly, but not completely, a record denoting a wordwide deluge: catastrophic with long lasting results. This is partly because I assume the biblical texts to be authoritative and accurate. There is nothing about those texts to suggest they were spun out of human imagination in a desire to convince ourselves and those around us of some higher purpose. They rather read as a text given from outside human reason and experience in order to reveal what we by nature cannot imagine.
Unless and until those who espouse an old earth are willing to admit up front what are their assumptions I will remain skeptical of their claims. At the same time, I do not consider their understanding to be preposterous by any means. My own assumptions and understandings are not above reproach. They are not without evidence either.
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