Posted on 05/29/2006 6:03:36 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
A leading British scientist said yesterday that he had given up trying to persuade creationists that Darwin's theory is correct after repeatedly being misrepresented and, he said, branded a liar.
Speaking at the Guardian Hay festival at Hay-on-Wye, the evolutionary biologist Steve Jones spoke of his frustrations when trying to debate with religious opponents.
"I don't engage with creationists directly," he said, saying that, when he had, they had frequently quoted him out of context or accused him of lying. "If somebody has decided to believe something - whatever the evidence - then there is nothing you can do about it."
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The most important difference between evolutionists and creationists, Prof Jones concluded, is that scientists are always prepared to say, "I don't know".
"If there weren't any unknown parts of evolution, bits we don't understand, it wouldn't be a science," he said, "That's one thing that believers never say, because it's all written down in a big book."
In 1997, Prof Jones was awarded the Royal Society's Michael Faraday prize, the UK's foremost award for communicating science to the public.
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You SURE have a VIVID imagination!
240 posted on 06/01/2006 5:00:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
That's a funny comment from somebody whose tagline reads as yours does.
What are you predicting then, a country club? Club Eternity?
What exactly are you predicting for us evolutionists and other ne'er-do-wells?
Not sure what that one was. I missed it too.
I'M predicting NOTHING.
It's not ME you have to worry about.
A thorn between two roses, most likely!
(How does a reply slip in between a double post???)
OOPS!!!
That was no double, but a copy of mine at 7:00.
Sorry: shouda looked closer.
I was a YEC for about fourteen years, which is my whole life prior to now. Ultimately what convinced me was that every creationist argument I saw fell away under scrutiny from evolutionists on these boards, while all creationists had to offer was willfull ignorance and insinuations about the character of evolutionists and scientists in general. What finally convinced me that evolution was right, and not just viable, was Ichneumon's well-known post about endogenous retrovirii.
Only one of my friends knows of my being an evolutionist and atheist.
As for your first question, I don't know where you are getting eight months from. The time it took me to go from staunch YEC to evolutionist was probably much less.
250 and it took me just a month of reading the crevo threads.
<< As for your first question, I don't know where you are getting eight months from. The time it took me to go from staunch YEC to evolutionist was probably much less. >>
My mistake. I read your profile page, and failed to notice it said 2004 and not 2005. Thanks for answering.
It didn't really take me very long, either. I was a YEC for twenty years, but it took me a long time to finally decide to actually look at the evidence presented by scientists, instead of reading and listening to all the straw men and other attacks from the professional rabble-rousing creationists.
Wait a minute, I have a stupid question. Isn't it "Darwins Theory of Evolution"?, key word, theory? And if it is just a theory (which it is because it has not been proven true), why is it being taught in public schools as fact? According to "them", God creating man is just a theory, so why isn't that taught along side of evolution?
What is gravity? Gravity has a law, which generalizes all observations. That goes back as far as Newton, who took Galileo's and Kepler's laws (derived from the observations of Galileo and Tycho Brahe, respectively), and showed that you can derive all their work and more from his own three laws of motion and one of gravity.
So what is evolution? Rather like Gravity, it has facts to explain and a theory to explain them. That is, both a fact and a theory. One of the better resources on the subject.
God creating man is a faith. Faith is not science. Doesn't make it false, there is just no drawer in the lab next to the Bunsen burners and the pipets called Faith. Claiming it is a scientific theory really does nothing but show that you have more faith than others.
"Why are there still monkeys but not the Neanderthals??"
LOL For the same reason we still have Democrats. Sometimes the strong ones die out, and the weak, whining, bedwetting, lying, cheating, stealing, lazy, beggars and criminals live. We don't know why. But if we ever find out.....
And what exactly are these facts? Besides the fake drawings of embryos, the fake "skull" (1/2 man, have organgutan) that everyone took as "fact" until it was proven a fake. All the black holes in this theory that are called the secrets of evolution. Fossils continue to prove evolution false.
Evolution is faith in no God. There is no proof of it. Where are all the fossils that prove evolution?
What makes you think it was a fake? How does your reasoning go?
oops, 1/2 organgutan, heehee
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