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'Darwin's finches' revert to type
english.aljazeera.net ^ | May 4, 2006

Posted on 05/08/2006 1:17:07 PM PDT by mlc9852

Human interaction with animals could be causing evolution to go into reverse, says a report by the Royal Society, Britain's science academy.

A study of finches on the Galapagos Islands in the Pacific – finches are the same birds that were said to have inspired Charles Darwin's groundbreaking work on evolution - has shown that some could be losing their distinctive beaks in response to living near humans.

Finches on the islands have developed different sizes of beak - but when people live in close proximity to the birds, their beaks revert to an intermediate size, the report says.

Andrew Hendry, a professor at McGill University in Montreal who led the study, told the Independent newspaper that the evolutionary split within the species was being reversed.

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TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: creation; creationping; crevo; crevodebates; crevolist; darwinsfinches; evofraud; evolution; evolutionfraud; finches; galapogos; pepperedmoths; reverseevolution
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To: raynearhood
"Oh yeah... evolution MAY be true, I don't know for sure, I just don't trust the evidence."

Let's leave it at that. :)

Or... we can leave on something we can both agree on:

Ted Kennedy is a bloated idiot. :)


161 posted on 05/09/2006 6:44:19 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Hear, Hear!


162 posted on 05/09/2006 6:45:11 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them."- Ronald Reagan)
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To: metmom

How do we decide which is right?



It all depends on which "cracked skull"
they are looking at, at the time.


163 posted on 05/09/2006 8:13:18 PM PDT by WKB (Gal. 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.)
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To: Last Visible Dog

:)) I love to read Carolina banjo players' posts....they are quite entertaining......can't be taken serious. B_sharps answers are educated and thought out. They make me think and are logical whether we agree or not.....but carolinabanjo player is funny....


164 posted on 05/10/2006 2:56:45 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: ml1954

Can you give a specific example? I don't like to answer vague questions.


165 posted on 05/10/2006 3:59:48 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: js1138

Well, there were several other links of the same story from what you would probably consider more reputable sources. Would you like me to hunt the other sources for you? Or do you just not believe the story?


166 posted on 05/10/2006 4:01:20 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Can you give a specific example? I don't like to answer vague questions.

It's not a vague question. It's a question of principle.

167 posted on 05/10/2006 4:44:58 AM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: metmom
How do we decide which is right?

Why... by following the edict that E Central puts out, silly!

168 posted on 05/10/2006 5:07:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
And nobody ever said they were anything else.

But they COULD be!

--EvoDude

169 posted on 05/10/2006 5:09:26 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: mlc9852
Yeah, sometimes extinction is just the best thing for a species, right?

It appears so...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=just+needs+killin&btnG=Google+Search

170 posted on 05/10/2006 5:15:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

Redundant!


171 posted on 05/10/2006 5:18:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: mlc9852

*Even a stopped clock is right twice a day*

Evo answer to the objection about having the backing of the ACLU. I guess it can apply to other groups as well.


172 posted on 05/10/2006 5:18:59 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ml1954

So you can't give an example? Then how can I answer?


173 posted on 05/10/2006 5:38:01 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

So you can't give an example? Then how can I answer?

Having trouble with questions of principle? I'm sure you can come up with many examples, as could I. But the principle is whether or not human interests supersede the possibility of a species going extinct. Is it right or wrong for humans to engage in behavior that is beneficial to human beings if the result is a species going extinct?

At any rate, I'm soon out the door for the day.

174 posted on 05/10/2006 6:03:42 AM PDT by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads.)
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To: mlc9852

How much human interaction will be required before they can swim away from the island?


175 posted on 05/10/2006 6:10:35 AM PDT by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: ml1954

I would put the needs and well-being of humans before animals, if that is your question.


176 posted on 05/10/2006 6:11:29 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: 70times7

LOL - maybe they can just build little boats after they have evolved some more.


177 posted on 05/10/2006 6:12:03 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
No it didn't. It said the studies were valid.

CarolinaGuitarman, you are like a caricature.

This is from your link: " The 'design flaws' in some of the experiments, if you want to call them that were primarily a result of practical expediency because Kettlewell wanted to be able to see birds taking moths, and to film them."

design flaws = bad science

practical expediency = faking results

The evo fanboys try to spin it, but it is what it is.

Kettlewell was not all wrong, but it was bad (incomplete/inventing results to fit one's desired outcome)

Open your eyes and then open your mind.

178 posted on 05/10/2006 10:01:36 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: js1138
You can't find anything wrong with the talkorigin piece and you can't admit it.

talkorign.org is an evolution fanboy site fulled lots of opinion.

Funny, you can't find anything wrong with the book 'Of Moths and Men: Intrigue, Tragedy & the Peppered Moth' by Judith Hooper (W. Norton & Company) and you can't admit it. In psychology that is referred to as projection

179 posted on 05/10/2006 10:08:38 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: tgambill
:)) I love to read Carolina banjo players' posts....they are quite entertaining......can't be taken serious. B_sharps answers are educated and thought out. They make me think and are logical whether we agree or not.....but carolinabanjo player is funny....

Ya know - when I read those posts I could swear I hear "Dueling Banjos" faintly in the distance - Deliverance was filmed in South Caralina - now it makes sense.

:-)

180 posted on 05/10/2006 10:17:32 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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