Creationism to be taught on GCSE science syllabus (you can't keep a good idea down)

The Times of London ^ | 10 March 2006 | Tony Halpin

[Greg o the Navy]

AN EXAMINATIONS board is including references to “creationism” in a new GCSE science course for schools.

[PatrickHenry]

Sounds like a bad case of hemorrhoids.

Sorry you feel that way. It was the Grand Master's own composition. He was rather proud of it.

[Sopater]

Odd that slavery is mentioned half a dozen times in the Old Testament and several times in the New Testament, and nowhere is it prohibited or described as immoral.

Slavery itself is not prohibited nor described as immoral, but it is heavily regulated as to the treatment of slaves. Slave owners had to treat slaves like human beings that were their responsibility, not like a whipping post piece of property.

It is doubly odd, if, as you say, the killing of a slave came under civil law, and no mention is made of morality. In fact, the slave is specifically described as property.

I didn't say that the killing of a slave came under civil law, I said that the scripture that you were referring to, and the punishment that was being described was under civil law (Exodus 21:20-21). The punishment for breaking the moral law is eternal damnation. That is clearly spelled out throughout scripture.

I am curious what you find in the Bible that would cause you to think holding a person as property is against God's Law.

God's Law pertains first to our love, faith in, and worship of Him, and then to the love and treatment of others. The matter of how a society establishes its social structure is largely left to that society. I imagine a slave owner who treats a slave with lovingkindess and respect will fare much better on judgement day before a holy and righteous God than a disrespectful, harassing department manager.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Do they still have schools in England?

[js1138]

I imagine a slave owner who treats a slave with lovingkindess and respect will fare much better on judgement day before a holy and righteous God than a disrespectful, harassing department manager.

So you are basically saying slavery is not a moral offense as long as slaves are well treated. If you think it is a sin, please cite your reference.

[js1138]

Word meanings change over time. I listed the current usage. I suspect you would be called a Zionist by most Arabs, regardless of what you call yourself.

[Heartlander]

Yadda (we‘ve been through this before), yadda (sign the statement if you feel strongly about it), yadda ( and want to believe the hype from flawed logic)…

[AndrewC]

I suspect you would be called a Zionist by most Arabs, regardless of what you call yourself.

And that matters not a whit to me. I believe most Arabs are arabs and last time I looked the English dictionary was written in English.

[jennyp]

Yadda (we‘ve been through this before),

Ah yes, history rhymes. :-)

[jennyp]

Oops, looks like there's not as much to this story as was previously thought (Sorry, the death of Darwin has been somewhat exaggerated):

You may have seen coverage about our new Gateway Science specification in the media.

At OCR, we believe candidates need to understand the social and historical context to scientific ideas both pre and post Darwin.

In our Gateway Science specification, candidates are asked to discuss why the opponents of Darwinism thought the way they did and how scientific controversies can arise from different ways of interpreting empirical evidence.

Creationism and 'intelligent design' are not regarded by OCR as scientific theories. They are beliefs that do not lie within scientific understanding.

[AndrewC]

Sorry, the death of Darwin has been somewhat exaggerated

Do tell! When is he going to speak?

[Elsie]

Odd that slavery is mentioned half a dozen times in the Old Testament and several times in the New Testament, and nowhere is it prohibited or described as immoral.

 

 

You must have MISSED this....

 

 

NIV 1 Timothy 1:9-11
  9.  We also know that law  is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
 10.  for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers--and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
 11.  that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

 

 

[Elsie]

Darwinism is the term used by creationists to disparage evolution.

And....

MANY are the terms used by evolutionists to disparage Creation.

[js1138]

I see nothing prohibiting one person from owning another. I admit there are rules about how you go about acquiring slaves -- hence the comment about slave traders.

Why no rule against owning slaves?

[Elsie]

It is the old tactic of demonizing and dehumanizing your enemy.

Of which we Evo's on FR know nothing about....

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This scurrilous(?) label should be easy to figure out:

 

When Dawkins spoke at Bradley, did or did he not complain about it in public (or private) about the use of the term?

This 'Debate Which Has Taken Over Our Lives' is SUPPOSED to be about research!

Do some and find out what the "Great Man" thinks about it!

[Elsie]

Perhaps I should ask if you are a Zionist, and whether you think this is a neutral term. Or a creationist. Or a nationalist. Or a Luddite or a fundamentalist, or a thumper...

[Elsie]

It's just so because I say it is, and you're going to hell!!

HMMMmmm...

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John 3

17. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
18. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but hoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

[Elsie]

Mine's more brownish....

[js1138]

Luddite seems appropriate for some people. I wasn't aware that fundamentalist was a pejorative. Thumper was Bambi's friend.