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Creationism to be taught on GCSE science syllabus (you can't keep a good idea down)
The Times of London ^ | 10 March 2006 | Tony Halpin

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by Greg o the Navy

AN EXAMINATIONS board is including references to “creationism” in a new GCSE science course for schools.


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To: Coyoteman; JCEccles
But you give yourself away. You call your opponents "Materialist darwinists,"

So what how would you describe them?

701 posted on 03/13/2006 4:50:28 AM PST by Tribune7
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To: EarnestWorm
Whereas there are some things which simply cannot happen. You can take a vote as to where the roulette ball will fall, and lay odds, but at no point will it enter your mind that the ball will fall upwards and defy laws of physics.

How about on a rotating space station such as was shown in the movie 2001?

702 posted on 03/13/2006 4:52:58 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

If you stick to using the Bible as a source of moral instruction, I have no objetion. That's how I read it.

But then you wouldn't be posting on science threads unless you thought the Bible is also an authority on natural history.

It on this point that religious people are counterproductive. You actually harm your cause.


703 posted on 03/13/2006 5:08:21 AM PST by js1138
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To: whattajoke
Oh to be a fly on the wall at Thanksgiving...

I have the same situation in my family. We don't discuss religion at dinner, and not much at other times.

704 posted on 03/13/2006 5:11:39 AM PST by js1138
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To: Elsie

actually, it is a picture of nothing.


705 posted on 03/13/2006 5:45:54 AM PST by King Prout (DOWN with the class-enemies at Google! LONG LIVE THE PEOPLE'S CUBE!)
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To: King Prout

Placemarker


706 posted on 03/13/2006 5:46:50 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: js1138
We don't discuss religion at dinner, and not much at other times.

It appears that it must not mean very much then.

707 posted on 03/13/2006 5:56:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: js1138
You actually harm your cause.

And what 'cause' is that?

708 posted on 03/13/2006 5:57:16 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie

Rabbits have litters.
They can have far more offspring per unit of time than humans

In addition, the mix would have to be not 4 pairs but one pair (representing Noah and his wife), three male offspring of that pair and 3 semi-random females. Semi random because Noah and his family are not that far removed from Adam and Eve, thus putting an initial restriction on the possible genetic diversity.

That's why the genetic diversity is


710 posted on 03/13/2006 6:08:43 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: VadeRetro
Note Chapters XIX and XX.

Too bad Y isn't a Roman Numeral. Chapters XY and XX would have been amusing.

711 posted on 03/13/2006 6:12:05 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: From many - one.; Elsie

"That's why the genetic diversity" sentence is not there.

Caffeine...must have caffeine.


712 posted on 03/13/2006 6:12:08 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Coyoteman
You are right. Grandfather Coyote is the creator, just as Native Americans thought all along.

Which tribe?
713 posted on 03/13/2006 6:12:25 AM PST by S0122017 (Ping Ping Ping MUHAHAHAHA Ping Ping Ping)
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To: EarnestWorm
... there is a finite probability of all the molecules suddenly rushing upwards...

No. All but one, but not all.

714 posted on 03/13/2006 6:16:00 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: EarnestWorm
Is that the same line with the sign that says "Do not make cartoons of Mohammed"?

Almost. The haberdashery may vary.

715 posted on 03/13/2006 6:18:43 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Syncretic

"
This line of argument may fool children, but is not likely to fool a mature adult,..."

Nobody has made that argument. Why must you prevaricate?


716 posted on 03/13/2006 6:20:11 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Ichneumon; Sola Veritas

The whole profanity bit is like the Danish cartoon row.

As I posted previously Ichneumon used a common, mildy vulgar expression, not a profanity. It was used to describe Sola Veritas' argument, not anything Biblical.


717 posted on 03/13/2006 6:22:21 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Tribune7
But you give yourself away. You call your opponents "Materialist darwinists,"

So what how would you describe them?

Biologists, paleoanthropologists, geologists, etc.

719 posted on 03/13/2006 7:47:11 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: S0122017
You are right. Grandfather Coyote is the creator, just as Native Americans thought all along.

Which tribe?

There are many. Here is one example:


Crow Creation Story

In the beginning, Old Man Coyote stood alone with water surrounding him. Two ducks swam by, and Coyote asked if they had seen anyone else. The ducks said no but thought that something might exist under the water.

Coyote asked if they would travel underwater for him and report on what they saw. The ducks did as they were asked, finding nothing. He asked again, and the ducks returned with a root. On the third try, they found mud and Coyote was happy. He told the ducks that they could build with it, and he began to shape and mold the mud into an island. He blew on it, and it expanded. He blew again, and it grew into the earth. The ducks said they did not like the earth's emptiness, so Coyote created grass and trees out of the roots that came from the water.

Coyote and the ducks loved the earth, but it was flat. They wanted rivers, valleys, mountains, and lakes. So it was done. Soon Coyote and the ducks made a perfect earth, but they grew lonely, with only the three of them to sit and enjoy the land. So Coyote molded dirt to form men and then more mud to create many types of male ducks. Soon, they realized that without women, the males could not have children. So with more dirt he made women and female ducks to populate the earth.

One day Old Man Coyote traveled upon the land and was surprised to find another Coyote. When asked where he came from, the younger brother, named Shirape, said he was unsure of his origin and only knew he existed. As the two traveled along, Shirape wanted Old Man Coyote to make other animals, for only ducks, humans, and the two Coyotes had been created. The elder Coyote agreed, and as he spoke the new animals' names, they were created. He said "Elk" and an elk appeared. He said "Bear" and a bear appeared. This is how it was until all animals were created.


720 posted on 03/13/2006 7:52:49 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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