Creationism to be taught on GCSE science syllabus (you can't keep a good idea down)

The Times of London ^ | 10 March 2006 | Tony Halpin

[Greg o the Navy]

AN EXAMINATIONS board is including references to “creationism” in a new GCSE science course for schools.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption this planet is the starting point for all life.

The evolutionists have no evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

The fact is nobody knows, that much is certain... to claim otherwise is no different in logical fallacy than creationism in the ‘appeal to false authority.’

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption this planet is the starting point for all life."

Um, no, they really don't. Evolutionists don't even care where life originated.

"The evolutionists have no evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all."

That's not true at all. There is no definitive evidence that the first life formed here, but there is overwhelming evidence that life has been evolving on this planet over the last 4 billion years. In fact, people have directly observed speciation in the last 100 years.

I note your complete inability to address ANYTHING I wrote. Regurgitation of your previous posts is not an argument.

[balrog666]

You have no evidence whatsoever that any species is indigenous to this earth - - none.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!

I guess you have no evidence that the universe exists either?!

[VadeRetro]

The fact is nobody knows, that much is certain... to claim otherwise is no different in logical fallacy than creationism in the ‘appeal to false authority.’

Nobody knows where the water in the great flood of Noah came from? Since we can't find the evidence for a global flood anywhere, and such evidence should exist somewhere if the story has a real basis in history, the water obviously came from somebody's imagination.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Since we can't find the evidence for a global flood anywhere, and such evidence should exist somewhere if the story has a real basis in history, the water obviously came from somebody's imagination."

Water on the Brain Placemarker. :)

[VadeRetro]

The evolutionists have no evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all.

You don't seem to be very acquainted with the evidence. If the Earth was seeded from space, it was something simple way back there. The evidence that the diversity of life we have now traces to a common ancestry on Earth is quite strong.

[Elsie]

The attitude I see more often here is that evolutionists see God's hand in evolution.

No doubt you do, but to me, it seems more like throwing a bone the rabid creationists, trying to get them to back off a bit.

Not a down right excluding of a Higher Power perhaps, but to CHRISTIANS, still a rejection of THEIR 'God' and His Book.

[balrog666]

Evolutionists make the fallacious assumption this planet is the starting point for all life and is the encapsulated center of the universe unaffected by anything (or anyone) beyond it. It is akin to saying the sun revolves around the earth.

Oooh, this ought to be delicious.

Let's see some evidence that the argument is fallacious, Sir Braindead.

[Coyoteman]

Not a down right excluding of a Higher Power perhaps, but to CHRISTIANS, still a rejection of THEIR 'God' and His Book.

Last I looked, Catholics were the original Christians. Fact is, they got about 1,600 years head start on the rest of the folks.

[King Prout]

add this one: floodwaters slipped in through interstices separating bubble universes and entered the sidereal universe... exited presumably the same way in obedience to law of conservation of matter and energy.

I can't recall where I ran into THAT option

[conserv371]

Adam was asleep and God took a rib from Adam to make Eve and brought her to him which was according the Bible the first marriage which is why Christ said, "Have you not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cling to his wife: and they two shall be one flesh.

So if this account is faulty, then the whole basis of traditional marriage is thrown out.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

If the Earth was seeded from space, it was something simple way back there.

You do not have any evidence to suggest that whatsoever. Nor, do you have any evidence changes may have occurred because of outside influence or that such changes are being affected now unobserved.

You have no evidence at all...

[Virginia-American]

The evolutionists have no evidence that any species, flora or fauna, evolved on this planet at all.

I coulda sworn I saw an exhibit showing a lot of intermediate steps between Hyracotherium (aka Eohippus) and modern horses, zebras, asses, etc.

This is evidence that all these species lived on the Earth, and some of the species, at least, merge almost imperceptibly into the "next" one.

[VadeRetro]

Yep. I'm reluctant to tackle proving that such propositions are untrue. Good luck to the guy who hopes to work that into shape for a peer-reviewed article!

[balrog666]

So if this account is faulty, then the whole basis of traditional marriage is thrown out.

So?

[Coyoteman]

Adam was asleep and God took a rib from Adam to make Eve...

Males and females have the same number of ribs.

[VadeRetro]

I can only assume you are 1) militantly unfamiliar with the evidence, or 2) similarly opposed to the interpretation of evidence as meaningful. You are set on being evidence-proof. I gather you know that if the evidence is allowed, it is against you.

Not very interesting or convincing.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

The only evidence you had was that something was dead. No evidence of where it came from or how anything changed, if at all.

You do not know if all of those things are from the Earth at all or if they had been changed by some sort of engineering.