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Creationism to be taught on GCSE science syllabus (you can't keep a good idea down)
The Times of London ^ | 10 March 2006 | Tony Halpin

Posted on 03/09/2006 6:55:14 PM PST by Greg o the Navy

AN EXAMINATIONS board is including references to “creationism” in a new GCSE science course for schools.


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To: Right Wing Professor

//negligent attitudes to the truth//

Where is there the truth?

Wolf


121 posted on 03/10/2006 9:46:43 AM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: JCEccles
Materialist darwinists have created a backlash as a result of their insufferable arrogance and hair-trigger quickness to use the power of the state to crush honest and fair-minded critics of evolution theory.

Just wait till you see how they behave on this thread.

122 posted on 03/10/2006 10:05:42 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Greg o the Navy; All
Well, here goes another futile attempt to make the point: this article simply does not mean what you think it does.

From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4793198.stm, a further quote from the OCR spokesman:

"Creationism and 'intelligent design' are not regarded by OCR as scientific theories. They are beliefs that do not lie within scientific understanding."

Your labelling of the article here is about 180 degrees out -- unless the 'good idea' that can't be kept down is neo-Darwinian ToE, as taught by the GCSE curriculum

123 posted on 03/10/2006 10:15:30 AM PST by ToryHeartland
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To: Right Wing Professor; metmom
Even beyond the personal stuff, I despise creationists in general for their anti-intellectualism, their pride in their own ignorance, and their negligent attitudes to the truth.



Or is just because they don't agree with you?
124 posted on 03/10/2006 11:09:44 AM PST by WKB
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To: vpintheak
Is the vocal 1.2% minority here whining yet?

It was actually 12%, see Post 135

125 posted on 03/10/2006 11:19:59 AM PST by Virginia-American
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To: phantomworker; From many - one.; Junior

ok, a vain question: is this simple illustration of specificity-out-of-randomness worthy of archive?


126 posted on 03/10/2006 11:24:40 AM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: WKB
Or is just because they don't agree with you

There are many people whom I don't agree with and yet respect.

127 posted on 03/10/2006 11:45:46 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
Even beyond the personal stuff, I despise creationists in general for their anti-intellectualism, their pride in their own ignorance, and their negligent attitudes to the truth.



The above quote by you is the classic example
of the pot calling the kettle black.
128 posted on 03/10/2006 11:48:33 AM PST by WKB
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To: Right Wing Professor
There are many people whom I don't agree with and yet respect.

That's a principle I applaud, but it's one in short supply with some chaps.

129 posted on 03/10/2006 11:49:16 AM PST by ToryHeartland
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To: WKB; RunningWolf; metmom

Isn't it interesting how fast they can come unglued, lol


130 posted on 03/10/2006 12:00:18 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: WKB

It's hard to get over posts by people who say they find strength in their ignorance.

When you've been on these threads a while, it's hard to get over a mob of people who set out to have these threads removed from FR, and whose tactice were indistinguishable from the Yippies of the 1970s. Many of these people were banned, but I believe many of them are back under different names.

It's hard to get over people who post the same discredited stuff over and over, the same fabricated quotes over and over, the same BS equating evolution with immorality.

This is what we despise.


131 posted on 03/10/2006 12:07:31 PM PST by js1138
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To: zeeba neighba

Isn't it interesting how fast they can come unglued, lol



What's even better is how they then say you are the
one coming unglued.:>)


132 posted on 03/10/2006 12:09:02 PM PST by WKB
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To: WKB; RunningWolf; Mamzelle; metmom; AndrewC; Dr. Eckleburg

Well it has been a bad few days for them. T-Rex soft tissue found, cold fusion at Purdue challenged, who knows what else. The only solace they get is feeling intellectually, and this is laughable, superior to the Fundy crowd. One of them has even admitted in the last few days to never even having read a biology book. It's hilarious, I tell you, hilarious.


133 posted on 03/10/2006 12:14:40 PM PST by zeeba neighba
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To: js1138
It's hard to get over posts by people who say they find strength in their ignorance.

The phenomenon is not unknown elsewhere, but if I may be permitted an observation, you appear to have an even worse dose of it in the US than we have here -- and I speak as a great admirer of the United States.

If some of your conservatives are like this, I don't want to know what your liberals are like!

134 posted on 03/10/2006 12:18:13 PM PST by ToryHeartland
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To: js1138

the same BS equating evolution with immorality.



One thing I have got to do is stop posting
to the same person on 2 threads. No wonder
I have headache.

To be honest I know some "unchurched" people
who more moral than some Christians I know


135 posted on 03/10/2006 12:18:47 PM PST by WKB
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To: WKB
To be honest I know some "unchurched" people who more moral than some Christians I know

Certainly my experience as well--it's a universal.

136 posted on 03/10/2006 12:34:48 PM PST by ToryHeartland
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To: microgood
But just assume for a minute we were designed by a higher power. In that case, no matter what science comes up with will be wrong, since they do not allow for that possibility

Not exactly. Science when correctly applied would probably not be able to confirm the higher power (unless obviously there was evidence), but it also would certainly not come up with any conclusions that conflicted with that hypothetical truth. Science is just a means for separating what we know from what we don't know. Thus when correctly applied it's never wrong, it's just sometimes incomplete.

This is the problem with the current ID movement. It's fine to believe a higher creator (and this doesn't conflict with the Theory of Evolution, regardless of what the ID propaganda crew tells you) but if your theology conflicts with actual certainties of science then there's something wrong.

Unfortunately it seems obvious that certain religious groups would rather simply spread misinformation to undermine science in the areas that conflict with it instead of adapting new knowledge into their theology.

137 posted on 03/10/2006 12:48:47 PM PST by Bingo Jerry (Bing-freaking-go!)
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To: metmom
Insisting that there is no supernatural explanation, starts scientific inquiry with a presumption.

The actual assumption is to avoid supernatural explanations along with the infinite number of other explanations that don't have any evidence for them, for the time up until some evidence is shown.

This is simple logic. This is the same reason when your newspaper is missing you don't assume that a ghost did it before you assume your neighbor stole it. If some sort of evidence emerged for the ghost, you'd be all over it (as would a scientist).

138 posted on 03/10/2006 12:52:08 PM PST by Bingo Jerry (Bing-freaking-go!)
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To: Bingo Jerry

The paper man's first defense is the dog did it.


139 posted on 03/10/2006 12:54:30 PM PST by WKB
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