Replies

"Your understanding of the Bible seems to come form the idea that it is a book which describes man's experiences of trying to understand God. But it is the other way around. The Bible is the record of God's dealing with man - supremely in the person of Jesus Christ. It is revelation not reason (which is not to say it is unreasonable)."

We shall have to agree to disagree on this one - it boils down to whether or not we believe that the authors truly had the word of God revealed to them, or they were just claiming that, to give credence to their written words. It is based, therefore, NOT on a faith in God, but a faith in the men who set the words to print.

"As Romans 1 makes clear we can know there is God by looking at nature - so no-one is left without excuse."

So, when our observation of nature, in the study of the fossil record, DNA, etc, disagrees with the written words in the bible, specifically Genesis, which are we to believe?

I prefer to believe that God would not have created a fossil record, DNA evidence, etc out of whole cloth, just to mislead.

We shall have to agree to disagree on this one - it boils down to whether or not we believe that the authors truly had the word of God revealed to them, or they were just claiming that, to give credence to their written words. It is based, therefore, NOT on a faith in God, but a faith in the men who set the words to print.

Ok but that would leave the Bible with lies in it - by definition so I cannot run with that.

On Evolution and DVA and so forth I say this - we are saved by the Blood of Christ not by our ideas on other things. I am no doubt wrong on many many things on life. I got the one that matter right and he is my Saviour.

I hope He is yours, everything else will fade...

I prefer to believe that God would not have created a fossil record, DNA evidence, etc out of whole cloth, just to mislead.

I agree, but what if we are looking at it wrong??

I'm sure St. Peter did not want to 'mislead', either, but....

2 Peter 3:15-17

15. Bear in mind that our Lord's patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.
16. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
17. Therefore, dear friends, since you already know this, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of lawless men and fall from your secure position.