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Designed to deceive: Creation can't hold up to rigors of science
CONTRA COSTA TIMES ^ | 12 February 2006 | John Glennon

Posted on 02/12/2006 10:32:27 AM PST by PatrickHenry

MORE THAN A CENTURY and a half since Charles Darwin wrote "On the Origin of Species," evolution remains a controversial concept among much of the population. The situation is quite different in the scientific community, where evolution is almost universally accepted. Still, attacks on the teaching of evolution continue.

The more recent criticism of evolution comes from proponents of intelligent design, a new label for creation "science." They claim ID is a valid scientific alternative to explaining life on Earth and demand it be taught in science classes in our schools along with evolution.

Although intelligent design is cloaked in the language of science and may appear at first glance to be a viable theory, it clearly is not. In fact, intelligent design is neither a theory nor even a testable hypothesis. It is a nonscientific philosophical conjecture that does not belong in any science curriculum in any school.

A theory in the scientific sense is quite different from how the word is often used in conversation.

Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. They are based on extensive data and their predictions are tested and verified time and again.

Biological evolution -- genetic change over time -- is both a theory and a fact, according to paleontologist Stephen Gould. Virtually all biologists consider the existence of evolution to be a fact. It can be demonstrated in the lab and in nature today, and the historical evidence for its occurrence in the past is overwhelming.

However, biologists readily admit that they are less certain of the exact mechanism of evolution; there are several theories of the mechanics of evolution, which are supported by data and are constantly being refined by researchers whose work is subject to peer review.

But there are many established facts concerning evolution, according to R.C. Lewontin, Alexander Agassiz Professor Emeritus of Zoology at Harvard University. He, as do virtually all biological scientists, agree that it is a fact that the Earth with liquid water has been around for more than 3.6 billion years and that cellular life has been around for at least half of that period.

We know for a fact that organized multicellular life is at least 800 million years old and that major life forms now on Earth did not exist in the past.

It is considered a fact by biologists that all living forms today come from previous living forms.

A fact is not the same as absolute certitude, which exists only in defined systems such as mathematics. Scientists consider a "fact" to be something that has been confirmed to such a degree of reliability and logic that it would be absurd to think otherwise.

Denying the facts of evolution is akin to denying that gravity exists. What is debatable, with both evolution and gravity, are the theories of the mechanics of how each operates.

Supporters of intelligent design vehemently disagree, but they do not offer alternative theories or verifiable data. Instead, intelligent design proponents attack evolution with misinformation, half-truths and outright falsehoods.

Intelligent design does not develop hypotheses nor does it test anything. As such, intelligent design is simply a conjecture that does not hold up to scrutiny.

False arguments

Unfortunately, intelligent design has considerable credibility outside the scientific community by making specious claims about evolution. Below are some of the leading charges made by intelligent design and creationist proponents in the past several years.

• Evolution has never been observed: But it has. Biologists define evolution as a change in the gene pool of a population of living organisms over time.

For example, insects develop resistance to pesticides. Bacteria mutate and become resistant to antibiotics. The origin of new species by evolution (speciation) has been observed both in the laboratory and in the wild.

Some intelligent design supporters admit this is true, but falsely say that such changes are not enough to account for the diversity of all living things. Logic and observation show that these small incremental changes are enough to account for evolution.

Even without direct observation, there is a mountain of evidence that confirms the existence of evolution.

Biologists make predictions based on evolution about the fossil record, anatomy, genetic sequences and geographical distribution of species. Such predictions have been verified many times, and the number of observations supporting evolution is overwhelming and growing, especially in the field of genetics.

Biologists have not observed one species of animal or plant changing quickly into a far different one. If they did, it would be evidence against evolution.

• Evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics: It clearly does not. This law of physics states essentially that disorder increases in a closed system. Some intelligent design and creationist proponents say this means that the order required in the evolution of simple life forms to more complex ones cannot take place, at least not on a long-term basis.

What critics of evolution don't say is that the Earth's environment is not a closed system. It absorbs enormous heat energy from the sun, which is all that is required to supply fuel for the evolution of plants and animals.

Order arises from disorder in the physical world as well, in the formation of crystals and weather systems, for example. It is even more prevalent in dynamic living things.

• There are no transitional fossils: This argument is a flat-out falsehood. Transitional fossils are ones that lie between two lineages with characteristics of both a former and latter lineage. Even though transitional fossils are relatively rare, thousands of them have been found.

There are fossils showing transitions from reptile to mammal, from land animal to whale, the progression of animals leading to the modern horse, and from early apes to humans.

• Theory says that evolution proceeds by random chance: This is an example of a half-truth perpetuated by intelligent design and creation supporters.

Chance is an important element of evolution, but it is not the only thing involved.

This argument ignores other forces such as natural selection, which weeds out dysfunctional species, and is the opposite of chance.

Chance takes place in genetic mutations, which provide the raw material of evolutionary change, which is then modified and refined by natural selection. But even at the genetic level, mutations occur within the framework of the laws of physics and chemistry.

Opponents of evolution argue that chance, even enhanced by natural selection and the laws of physics, is not enough to account for the complexity of DNA, the basic building blocks of almost all life forms. (RNA is the foundation of some microbes). However, there literally were oceans of organic molecules that had hundreds of millions of years to interact to form the first self-replicating molecules that make life possible.

Irreducible complexity

The attack on evolution that intelligent design proponents use most often today is one based on "irreducible complexity." This has become the foundation of their attempts to cast doubt on evolution.

They argue that certain components of living organisms are so complex that they could not have evolved through natural processes without the direct intervention of an intelligent designer.

Michael Behe, a leading proponent of intelligent design, defined irreducibly complex as "a system composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribute to the basic function, wherein the removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning."

In other words, irreducible complexity refers to an organism that does something (a function) in such a way that a portion of the organism that performs the function (a system) has no more parts than are absolutely necessary.

The argument made is that the entire system with all its parts, such as an enzyme used in digestion or a flagellum used to propel a bacterium (an example Behe favors in his defense of irreducible complexity), would have to come into being at one time -- a virtual impossibility.

If one of the parts were missing, Behe argues, the system would not be able to function, and thus a simpler, earlier evolving system could not exist.

It is not as easy as it may appear at first glance to define irreducible complexity because there is not a good definition of what a part is. Is it a particular type of tissue, a cell, or segment of DNA? Behe is not clear. But even if he were able to define a true IC system, his argument would fail.

There are several ways an irreducible complexity system could evolve. An early version could have more parts than necessary for a particular function. The individual parts could evolve. Most likely, an earlier version of the system could have had a different function.

This is observed in nature. For example, take the tail-like flagellum of a bacteria, which Behe says supports irreducible complexity. It is used for functions other than motion. A flagellum can be used to attach a bacteria to a cell or to detect a food source.

Thus, a precursor to a more complex flagellum could have had a useful, but different, function with fewer parts. Its function would have changed as the system evolved.

Simply put, the irreducibly complex system argument doesn't work. Most, if not all, of the irreducible complexity systems mentioned by intelligent design adherents are not truly IC. Even if they were, they clearly could have evolved. That is the consensus of almost all biological scientists.

Intelligent design is not science

The theory of evolution and common descent were once controversial in scientific circles. This is no longer the case.

Debates continue about how various aspects of evolution work. However, evolution and common descent are considered fact by the scientific community.

Scientific creationism, or intelligent design, is not science. Believers of intelligent design do not base their objections on scientific reasoning or data.

Instead, it appears that their ideas are based on religious dogma. They create straw men like irreducible complexity or lack of transitional fossils, and shoot them down. They fabricate data, quote scientists out of context and appeal to emotions.

Intelligent design disciples do not conduct scientific experiments, nor do they seek publication in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

Still, they have had an impact far beyond the merits of their arguments.

One of their most persuasive arguments is an appeal to fair play, pleading to present both sides of the argument. The answer is no. They do not present a valid scientific argument.

Within the scientific community, there is virtually no acceptance of intelligent design. It has no more place in a biology class than astrology in an astronomy class or alchemy in a chemistry class.


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To: Right Wing Professor

Actually, I'm a girl.

Not really hip to the beard thing on Jesus or God the Father either. More interested in the fact that God is not only loving Spirit -- but He is the Truth.

(As John wrote, Jesus is the Word made Flesh. Ruminate on that. It will blow your mind and give you hope that there is a good God in all this mess we've made on earth.)

I'm into the metaphysics of His love. The Darwin stuff is funny because it destroys people's faith without giving them anything but missing links in the end.


921 posted on 02/14/2006 2:56:47 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Californiajones; Dimensio
The INHERENT (please look up that word, Evos) argument of Darwin's hypothesis is that the species evolved from lower life forms.

And why couldn't this be the manner in which God created mankind?

As this negates the idea of the Soul,

Wrong.

of the conscience,

Wrong again.

of the moral comport of Mankind

Wrong yet again. Why do you presume that these are incopatible with evolutionary formation of mankind?

as well as dishes entirely the Biblical descriptions of how and why Man was created,

Are you sure? Millions of Christians have no problem reconciling the two.

Darwin's hypothesis of Evolution in the early 19th century negates the Biblical model.

Nope.

Don't know how to say it any clearer

Well, you could make it more clear by actually supporting your assertions, if you can...

except if it didn't nail the Bible, this thread would not be this long.

No, if it didn't "nail the Bible in the minds of *some* people", it wouldn't be as long -- that has little to do with whether it *actually* conflicts with the Bible when the Bible is read correctly.

Our spiritual nature is something that did not "evolve" out of physical processes. Sorry.

Because you say so? That's not very convincing. \

922 posted on 02/14/2006 2:57:47 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Check the dictionary. Ain't is a word. Didn't used to be. Get over it.

Second, if you wan't to knitpick english, go to an english thread.

Third, if you want to prove speciation, prove it. That doesn't consist of Corn producing Corn. It consists of Corn producing non-corn. Macro-evolution in other words.. perhaps you've heard of it...

Lastly, the number of observed "claimed" speciation events is greater than 0. The number of actual is Zero, has been zero since Darwins time and will likely evermore remain zero unless someone starts playing in a lab in which case you'll have design, not speciation. Corn becoming corn isn't speciation. Propaganda thusly routed. Next attempt.


923 posted on 02/14/2006 2:58:49 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Right Wing Professor

A prof who's never published?

Well if you think Darwin just came upon his theory, in say, 1857, to publish in 1859, I'd say you were wrong.

As your idea points to the speciousness of Darwinism, however, yeah, maybe it took him about three good months to think up evolution.


924 posted on 02/14/2006 2:59:43 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: hosepipe

Did you see their Corn producing Corn is speciation argument?
Might look at it, wouldn't want anyone to miss the best sideshow on FR right now.. lol.


925 posted on 02/14/2006 3:00:43 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Ichneumon
Hey, I'll be happy to show you point for point how Evolution contradicts the Bible, except that it would probably be as long as the Bible itself.

So why don't you read it for yourself. Most 19th Century Victorians were well versed in the Bible, as it was warp and woof of the culture then --and so, Darwin had to have known how radical his "science" was.
926 posted on 02/14/2006 3:03:46 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Right Wing Professor
[ Dielectic Agnosticism / Don't you mean dyslexic? ]

No Hmmm interesting thought though..

927 posted on 02/14/2006 3:05:25 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Californiajones
As John wrote, Jesus is the Word made Flesh. Ruminate on that.

Hmmm, OK. Let's see. Words are strings of letters that collectively have symbolic value. Flesh is the stuff animals and humans are made of. So Jesus is a string of letters turned into human or animal tissue.

I'm sorry, it appears to be a completely nonsensical statement. So, now you're telling me this content-free statement means I should disbelieve 150 years of real scientific data?

It will blow your mind and give you hope that there is a good God in all this mess we've made on earth

I gave up trying to blow my mind back in the 70's. But I can see your point. Possibly if I took LSD, it might make sense.

928 posted on 02/14/2006 3:07:23 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor

I think the basic thought you don't want to get your head around is that the comment means Christ is the embodyment of the laws of God - the word meaning the scripture. Simple to get to really whether one believes it or not. But I understand your need for bloviation. Coming from guys trying to sell Corn producing Corn is speciation, .. it's less than surprising.


929 posted on 02/14/2006 3:11:04 PM PST by Havoc (Evolutionists and Democrats: "We aren't getting our message out" (coincidence?))
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To: Havoc
I think the basic thought you don't want to get your head around is that the comment means Christ is the embodyment of the laws of God - the word meaning the scripture.

Thanks, Mr. non-Christian.

So how is a person an embodiment (sp!) of a law?

Figure out which of the examples I posted are dogs yet? You do know what a dog is, right?

930 posted on 02/14/2006 3:13:37 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Ichneumon; Californiajones

"The INHERENT (please look up that word, Evos) argument of Darwin's hypothesis is that the species evolved from lower life forms."

If that were true there wouldn't be any "lower forms" around today.


931 posted on 02/14/2006 3:15:13 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: hosepipe
Yeah, dialectical Agnosticism. Funny.

One of my papers as an undergrad was about the convergence of Marx Darwin Nietche Freud Jung in the same pre Azusa Street time period.

These "Scientists" comprised a fake intellectual juggernaut of unbelief that helped foster in the greatest murder of people in one century than in all the previous centuries before in all the wars ever fought.

More people died for the ideas of Marx than any other cause in the history of mankind.

Nazi deaths were but a blip on the screen compared to the Marxist slaughter. in the name of atheism.

Darwin's theory, while not directly tied to Marxism in any other way in which you stated -- "one thing they know for sure, it's NOT God" -- was just an erosion of faith in Christians who failed to be pro-actively intellectual and took apologetics as seriously as Paul tells us to.

Once you demean human life, it is much easier to murder.
Wonder how many Evolutionists are proLife?
932 posted on 02/14/2006 3:16:01 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: furball4paws
""The INHERENT (please look up that word, Evos) argument of Darwin's hypothesis is that the species evolved from lower life forms."

If that were true there wouldn't be any "lower forms" around today.""

Well, I think Evos would say that the Evolutionary process works at different speeds according to random forces of weather, geography and the emotional state of mind of the Evos themselves.
933 posted on 02/14/2006 3:18:11 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Right Wing Professor

Hey, a policeman is an embodiment (sp?) of the law. His body will come and get you if you're still taking that LSD.


934 posted on 02/14/2006 3:18:25 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Californiajones
If that were true there wouldn't be any "lower forms" around today.""

Why not?
935 posted on 02/14/2006 3:18:58 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Californiajones
Once you demean human life, it is much easier to murder.

Argument from the consequences predicated upon a strawman. Two logical fallacies in one claim. How utterly unsurprising.
936 posted on 02/14/2006 3:19:46 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Why not?

Oops. Disregard this. Wasn't used to CJ not italicizing comments to which he is replying.
937 posted on 02/14/2006 3:20:36 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Californiajones
"Well, I think Evos would say that the Evolutionary process works at different speeds according to random forces of weather, geography and the emotional state of mind of the Evos themselves."

This is an answer for what? Trilobites were highly evolved and very successful. Humans are highly evolved - their success is yet to be determined. Pseudomonas is highly evolved and very successful.

Does it bother you that humans are just another species in the grand scheme of things :)

938 posted on 02/14/2006 3:23:01 PM PST by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Babe, what I'm trying to say is that the grandeur you are looking for in Evolution is literally in God's Word.

God's Word is the creative force in the universe; the power Evos ascribe to Evolution. The Word was not only Made Flesh, it is "alive and active, capable of searching out the true meanings and emotions"

As Napoleon said when cooped up on Corsica with only a Bible to keep him warm, he threw it across the room in fear one night saying "That book is alive!"

Indeed.

(Told you I was into metaphysics.)
939 posted on 02/14/2006 3:23:28 PM PST by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Californiajones
God's Word is the creative force in the universe; the power Evos ascribe to Evolution

No one claims that evolution is "The creative force in the universe". It's simply a process by which diverse species emerge, nothing more.

If you don't understand what evolution is, what it encompasses and -- most importantly for you, apparently -- what it does not encompass, then you have no credibility whatsoever when speaking about it.

As Napoleon said when cooped up on Corsica with only a Bible to keep him warm, he threw it across the room in fear one night saying "That book is alive!"

Do you have a reference for this story?
940 posted on 02/14/2006 3:25:54 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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